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>Link: https://dad.gallery
>Discord: You must have a DAD streak of at least 14 to join. Ask Vastian for an invite.
>Found an issue with the site? Lost your streak and want to appeal? Please message the contact link at the bottom of the site instead of posting in the thread.
Rules:
>Draw every day (or your preferred frequency)
>Submit your work by 23:59:59 GMT
>Spend at least 30 minutes on each submission
>No loli or shota porn
>Miss a day and you'll be alright, just keep going!
>Maintain your streak and you too can become the LAST ARTIST STANDING!!
>Have fun!
Go and comment on each other's artwork; dads love attention!
FAQ:
What is the goal?
>To form a habit of drawing. The gains you make are dependent on you.
I am /beg/gar and not know draw, can I join?
>Yes x99. Stop asking and start submitting art, chum. Make something!
How long does it take until my account is approved?
>Between two to three weeks, usually when you reach level 3. Even unapproved submissions count toward your streak!
A brief history:
>Last Artist Standing (LAS): The original site, created by Lava (presumed dead, rest in peace). It has changed and ruined the lives of many lassies.
>Draw Every Day (DED): A short-lived site between LAS and DAD, run and abruptly cancelled by w.
>Do Art Daily (DAD): The current site, by the dadmin and developer banana.
Community links:
>DADcast: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfCw_buGoBDPQC1bbcukmnQ
>LAS discord (alternative to DAD discord): https://discord.gg/5777rZnqW9
>Crit Dashboard: https://dad-crit.vercel.app/
If you’re going to be a crab, then please be specific.
Its one thing to get a technical ability, but how do you build a communication ability of an artist to provide a feeling?
>B-but, imma not gud ennuf
Didn't stop ONE
What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly, keep discussion at a civil level.
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
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>Community Resources
>Tag the OP if you want a resource included here.
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
Naoki Saito: https://youtu.be/8jsZGeaWkhE?si=6HZIvG9Bx3y9qoHs&t=12
AnimeShijuku: https://twitter.com/animesijyuku/status/1717415459778347358
Krenz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw
**Strive for quantity AND quality.**
Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.
General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.
**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**
Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc
/mmg/ - Manga Making General:
>>>/ic/mmg
Previous Thread:
>>7111187
If you're looking for a place to practice and post all sexual works, from pinups with exaggerated proportions to pornography, then this is the right general for you. Both Eastern and Western styles can coexist here.
>Rules & Guidelines
1) All forms of cartooning styles are welcome; submit and receive feedback from others.
2) Please resize your images below 1000x1000 before posting.
3) Share your knowledge, any tips are certainly welcome for all beginners.
4) Do to not be afraid of asking for critique, please be specific on what help you need.
5) Remember all GB3 related content such as LOLICON, SHOTACON, FURRY pornography, FURRY and BESTIALITY are banned on ALL boards, including red boards, except /b/ and /trash/. DO NOT post that content here.
6) DO NOT reply to AI bait posts. Report and hide, then let the janitors and moderators deal with the problem.
>Community Resources
>>>/ic/courses
>>>/ic/artbook
characterdesignreferences.com/character-anatomy
>NSFW image resources
pornpics.com
female-anatomy-for-artist.com
realbooru.com
hegrehunter.com
>Timed drawing gallery
line-of-action.com
quickposes.com/en
>Has made millions
How did he do it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284
Do not read anything into pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.
If you have any additional questions, ask them.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills.
Recommended tablets:
>Screenless:
Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom
>Display:
Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite
Medium (12-16"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S8/S9 Ultra, used iPad Pro 12.9"
Large (22"+): Cintiq 22HD, Cintiq Pro 27 - Make sure they have VESA standard mounting holes.
>Avoid:
>XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand making Wacom imitations
Poor build quality, pens with wavy lines, wobbly nibs, broken tilt, issues registering light pressure, terrible customer support, uncalibrated. All Chinese brands have the same problems. Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.
Do not be fooled by myths like "Chink companies are just as good as Wacom now" - they've been saying this for over 8 years, nothing has changed. Consider reading the amazon reviews, particularly the negative spectrum and you will find some very common themes.
Chinese companies have also been proven to shill on 4chan. You will see dozens upon dozens of posts in this thread by a chinese schizo shill, who will either be bitching about the OP, gaslighting as a Wacom fan, making pointless spam posts or giving terrible advice (like recommending Huion). Just ignore and report him.
>Microsoft Surface Pro
More optimized for palm rejection than good quality drawing. Wobbly lines when drawing slow and straight.
>Cintiq 13-16"
Completely outclassed by the Galaxy Tab Ultra & iPad
>Cintiq Pro 16, 24, 32
Overpriced, QC issues, loud fans, proprietary mount interface
>Lenovo
Worse than Samsung in every way.
Previous: >>7078761
>Guidelines:
1. [THE MOST TAISETSU] Don't post too revealing works (especially porn). If you think it's too lewd, post a censored copy here and link to Catbox, Imgur, or any off-site that hosts images for your works.
2. Do not post child photo references, legal or otherwise.
3. Due to this general's PPH (posts per hour/thread activity), please wait until the thread falls to around page 5 or 6 before making a thread. Use archived(moe) or warosu to retrieve the old threads.
4. Please do NOT talk about real children. Keep it 2D only.
>Lolicon Artists Directory & General Information
https://load.blogs.allthefallen.moe/
>A training course on modesty for young ladies
https://online-courses.club/anatomy-of-clothing-2019-by-ron-lemen/
>(Kinda not really) abandoned FAQ/Q&A
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15rON6jeKul-p89KF5ZYSo4eRLW1kdVaKv8CMt09UgXI/edit?usp=drivesdk
>General Resources
Loli loomis book
https://files.catbox.moe/gu68yf.zip
Legacy Book Scans
https://yande.re/forum/show/10527
Some free resources
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
https://www.quickposes.com/en
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/random
https://www.characterdesigns.com/non-nude-photo-index
https://www.lovelifedrawing.com/tutorials/
https://app.posemy.art/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practice
https://www.rkgk.org/
Might as well check archives and active /ic/ threads for references.
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/7019067#p7019080
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/2015637
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/6864584
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/2023233
https://4chanarchives.com/board/ic/thread/2015637
No one made a new one in a couple weeks edition
>Matrix channel
https://element.anontier.nl/#/room/#ic:anontier.nl
# TORRENT
qbittorrent
https://www.qbittorrent.org/download.php
https://github.com/qbittorrent/search-plugins#readme
https://ngosang.github.io/trackerslist/
The rutracker search plugin has some nma stuff
/ic/ official torrent
>>>/t/1069595
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0aebc0f02e6c179b62e04c69af3e5adee3abee12&dn=IC-STUDY
# WEBSITES:
https://gfx-hub.cc/tutorials/
https://godownloads.net/category/videos-tutorials/
https://www.psdly.com/free-course
https://vfxdownload.net/free-coursess/
https://avxhome.in (you will find some, plus books)
Uncharted waters, lots of content
https://courseupload.net/category/graphic-design/drawing/
https://godownloads.net/category/videos-tutorials/drawing-painting-tuts/
https://www.proko.com/course/introduction-to-figure-construction/overview
MOST WANTED COURSES:
Creative Sketching with Jens Claessens
https://underpaintacademy.com/product/creative-sketching-with-jens-claessens/
Steven Zapata's Form From Imagination
https://www.formfromimagination.com/
Michael Hampton's Introduction to Figure Construction
https://www.proko.com/course/introduction-to-figure-construction/overview
https://michaelhampton.gumroad.com/l/Figureconstruction
Josh Black's Anatomy Survival Guide
https://www.proko.com/course/the-anatomy-survival-guide/overview (which is apparently a compilation of most (or all?) of his Gumroad stuff: https://joshhblackart.gumroad.com/)
Steve Huston is currently doing a free, lengthy course on drawing the head on his Youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@STEVEHUSTONdrawsfromlife/videos
Last thread: >>7052539
And why aren't they even trying to get their general art abilities on a master/high tier level despite aknowledging their flaws well enough?
![i.4cdn.org[slash]b[slash]1707365459569422.jpg](https://i.4cdn.org/ic/1707365885184499s.jpg)
New to Yuri? Yuri is a genre from Anime that puts emphasis on relationships that are powerful between Females whether they be tender loving, sadistic, or just plain unfriendly. Please visit the Yuri board >>>/u/ for a general introduction to this Anime genre and just like the Yuri board suggests, drawings of Lesbian sex or nudity between two or more female figures is allowed but not required.
Have an OC? Shipping your favorite anime character with another lady? Got a personal project you're working on? Feel free to post them here but remember this is a visual arts board where you tell your story not with words but under a visual medium with forms and shapes.
edition
>What is /fag/?
This is the Furry Art General thread, here we post everything related to kemono, furry, and animals alike.
>Rules & Guidelines
Please refrain from flaming, causing drama or replying/feeding those who cause such.
This is a SFW thread only, please take caution so you don't get BANNED for posting NSFW art.
This general is NOT and NEVER will be affiliated with any discord servers, DO NOT click any of the discord links that are spammed here!
As always, don't be afraid to ask for critique!
>Resources
https://www.lackadaisycats.com/ishkabibble.php
https://x6ud.github.io/
https://sketchfab.com/calacademy
https://sketchfab.com/uod_museums
https://sketchfab.com/osuecampus
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwQnoDwr_NeAcKDRzqNfSRQ/videos
https://mega.nz/file/b5tFhKhC#ro27W6YRYGpWPCKGolp4Z6Mkeg3o7l9smy8EmZi26O8
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv6Z1VKjRcx8-uUyBNyQm1g/videos
Previous Thread: >>7135499
>Publicly editable rentry for CSP assets. Feel free to contribute brushes you have purchased. Assets that have been deleted from the store are also welcome to be uploaded here.
https://rentry.org/CSP_materials
>CSP assets store wishlist
https://rentry.org/Brush_Wishlist
>"What brush does this artist use?"/"What brush looks like this?"
1.)Search "brush (from:artisthandle)" or "assets.clip-studio.com (from:artisthandle)" on twitter if that's where they post mainly. Make sure to set it to the Latest tab to see the artist's tweets. Or use Nitter.
2.)Search brush posts on their Pixiv Fanboxes/Booth/Patreon. Then try to see if it's on kemono or archives.
3.)If none of the searches work, then ask here.
>"My CSP is cracked so I can't use the asset store"
As long as you log into the asset store it works even on cracked copies.
>"Where are the other brush sets other than the CSP ones?"
Check the archive. We don't put them in the rentry on purpose because those get targeted in particular for takedowns.
Previous: >>7096705
(Brush in the OP is in the rentry.)
>And in Art, study can never stop. You will find sketches galore in the studio of the good man, with the paint quite fresh. The mediocre artist's sketches are old and dusty.
>I have seen so many middle-aged artists still hoping, whose samples are frayed at the edges, and thumb-marked with time. Sometimes it has been a matter of years since they sat down and actually did something to give their hopes any promise. They are plodding their lives away at something they hate, and doing nothing about it. These are the men who never seem to have had a chance. The truth is, they never seized a chance.
- Andrew Loomis, Creative Illustration
/Studies/ General is all about improving your art and never settling for mediocrity. Every artist is a student, forever and ever. Anybody, from beginner to pro, can post here. Any style is accepted. Critiques are welcome and encouraged. Let's make this a productive thread!
Read the fucking sticky: http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/
Recommended Resources:
https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view
Last Thread:>>7062670
>asks me for advice and tutorials
>I link him unhelpful DA-tier tutorials and give him platitudes that'll stunt his development
>he asks for refs
>I tell him I don't have any (I actually have 20gigs) and just to use google images
>report all the uploaded resources I can find to try to get them taken down
Who else /crab/? I'm not going to apologize, art is a zero sum game where only a small percentage of people will be able to make it. There's a finite number of industry jobs and patreon bux to milk, the less people that make it the better it is for the rest of us.
Drawpile Software: drawpile.net/download
Session URL: sigmatelier.asperger.pro
Server is accessible 24/7
A growing amount of sporadic activity can be found throughout most weekdays, official meetup starts Sundays at 5pm CST. Hope to see you there!
Be conscious of the canvas size and considerate of others with the size of your own drawings, make note of your own monitor resolution and magnification. Try to stick to 100-200% magnification-or even higher depending on your native resolution and the relative complexity of your intended work. Read the room, let's try and get the most out of each theme!
Canvas images posted to the thread are .jpg files at 70% scale and 40% quality to meet 4chan's resolution and file size requirements.
For high quality raw .png canvas files, use the MEGA archive here: https://mega.nz/folder/hbAURDBB#htWRoOsPOG30XnMmKV_zNA
I've legitimately never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby and have gotten lazy over the years with my only actual one which is writing and the only reason I'm good at writing is because I wanted people to be able to understand what the fuck I was saying and I wanted to write good stories because I thought I'd never be able to make them in a visual medium, but that's it. I've never been able to commit to a serious routine, schedule, or anything. I just sit in my room online doing basically nothing.
Everything I try doing looks so daunting and impossible. I tried learning Source Filmmaker as a teen and I gave up immediately because it looked too complicated. I tried learning how to make my own games in game maker, gave up immediately and never touched it. Even something like drawing just looks so complex and impossible. This is what it's like for everything I try doing.
Be specific if you request something: post the cover, book's title, artist's name...
Please be patient, board is slow, someone may answer you a week later.
Please search in the thread and links below before asking for something, it may well already be there.
PLEASE ENCODE YOUR LINKS BEFORE YOU POST THEM HERE!
Unencoded links are frequent targets for trolls and bots!
>Thread recap file, updated 09-APR-2024
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>Artbooks:
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https://e-hentai.org/tag/artbook
https://e-hentai.org/tag/how+to
>What the hell are these links?
>Are they encoded?
>What the hell do I do with them?
No, they're not info-hashes or magnets; we're encoding the links to keep bots and scripts from recognizing and harvesting/reporting them. You will see a GIF in the first two or three posts that explains what to do. Don't understand some of the terms in the GIF? Google them. Some of the encoded links *may* have multiple layers - like ogres or onions. You might have to "peel" them more than once to get to the good part.
>Have you seen them?
https://pastebin.com/UxwtuAzp
... and before some dumbass asks, here's the book from the OP image:
>MAEDAX no HAIKEI MOE!
>MAEDAXの背景萌え!
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Neo-neo-classical renaissance?
Are there enough people interested in a revival of arts, like 16 and 19 century people tried to do?
Looking online, there seems to be a lot more women posting great art than men. Female artists get out of the /beg/ phase much faster, are more consistent with their art, are more varied with their styles, aren’t massive coomers, and are generally more soulful.
Why can’t we compete, bros?
Is it because women get obsessed with drawing their husbandos and brute force their way into becoming skilled artists or something?
left: jan 2023, first genuine attempt at art
right: march 2024
Rules:
>Do not take the bait or derail. Don't be a sperg.
>Only post SFW shota, link NSFW and suggestive from catbox. Don't post real life references.
>Don't fight about different male body types, shota. Nobody cares.
>No femboy/trans/traps/futa. Go to /salt/ for that.
>No tits, no coochies, no female body ratio.
>Don't sperg if a feminine male (not femboy) is posted, ignore if it's not your cup of tea, keep in mind the nature of stylization and simplification in anime and cartoon art styles before you choose to derail the thread, though crit is welcome like always.
Previous thread >>6791154
It literally looks better to just leave shit grayscale in the end and it's killing me
Start by reading the first 32 pages. Don't worry about copying the drawings yet. Pay attention to the basic proportions pages. When you're done, got to page 38.
Pages 38-49: 2 weeks. Take your time learning the mannequin. Try drawing it in various poses.
Pages 50-56: 1 week
Then spend 1 week going back and studying the pages that were skipped.
Don't just copy! Try redrawing Loomis' drawings from memory after your initial copy, and take note of what you got wrong. Apply what you've learned to photo reference and try inventing figures from imagination.
The book:
https://files.catbox.moe/d2501d.pdf
And here's some refs:
https://files.catbox.moe/7246sw.zip
Good luck!
https://discord.gg/Ju9NuWN
>51 exercises to try
http://www.animatorisland.com/51-great-animation-exercises-to-master/
>basic programs
https://opentoonz.github.io/e/
https://www.synfig.org/
https://motorpen.com
https://tupitube.com/
>Reference
http://www.referencereference.com/
https://vimeo.com/groups/aniref
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRvspTjApofA2Yg3i10gTdQ
http://www.rhinohouse.com/
>Anime .gif/.webm repository
https://sakugabooru.com/post
https://motorpen.com/gallery
>Sakuga Extended: Add ons to play video on sakugabooru frame-by-frame
https://www.sakugabooru.com/forum/show/964
Mozilla Firefox:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sakuga-extended/
Chromium based browsers:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sakuga-extended/khmnmdaghmhkcbooicndamlhkcmpklmc
>Reference (artbook, settei of actual anime production, color designs):
https://setteidreams.net/settei/
https://setteidreams.net/artbooks/
https://setteidreams.net/color-designs/
previous thread >>7086680
I think it's inevitable that AI will have to be used in some way to supplement art, whether it's creating concepts or backgrounds, or get left behind in the dust.
Isn't it FUCKING HILARIOUS, cruelly ironic, almost a cosmic prank that the ONE thing everyone thought artificial intelligence would never be able to replicate is the first thing it's able to replicate when it was concieved?
Still
There is a fundamental flaw in the ai generated content that I'm only 50% sure it won't be fully fixed, and that's emotion. There's a sort of soulless vacancy that haunts the incredibly aesthetic ai generated content. The poses aren't very fluid, there's no technique with exaggeration. It can't capture the emotional complexities of a human. There is no "story", nor experience, no evidence of another, different conscience that experiences his own version of qualia. I hope and pray to god with every vessel of my flesh that AI doesn't figure that out, because if that happens,
1. There's really no point in artists anymore. It'll be reduced to a skill that's only impressive in that wow, you can "do stuff like a computer can"
2. The implication that humans aren't special, we are just machines that can be easily figured out, the human 'spirit' is an illusion.
Some resources:
>English Youtube channel with tutorials about ikemen/anime boys:
https://www.youtube.com/user/SirKite92/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/Dospordos/videos
Rules:
>Do not take the bait or derail. Don't be a sperg.
>Don't fight about different male body types, ikemen/twink/bara. Nobody cares.
>No femboy/trans/traps/futa. Go to /salt/ for that.
>No shota. Go to /lsg/ or /ssg/ for that.
>No tits, no coochies, no female body ratio.
>Females are welcome so long as the image remains male focused.
>Don't sperg if a feminine male (not femboy) is posted, ignore if it's not your cup of tea, keep in mind the nature of stylization and simplification in anime and cartoon art styles before you choose to derail the thread, though crit is welcome like always.
Previous thread: >>7013443
Just copy some modern art and sell it for $25,000.
You don't even have to know how to paint.
Can they see your address and name?
Do you use a business name?
If you do, what's the point of that? They can easily look up where your business was registered and the name of the owner
Who does it the best? Do you do it much? How do I achieve the mythical good ink-and-pen artist status?
1. Manmade objects, vehicles, tool, weapons etc. (of any kind and any historical era, as long as they fall in the ballpark of "technology") and fictional derivatives of such
2. Objects,vehicles, creatures etc. that aesthetically fall into the visual space of mecha/robot/artificial/cybernetics etc. regardless of level of realism.
Helpful to mention the level of realism, if any, you are taking into account in the art.
Old general resoruces (hopefully these ones aren't empty):
>Scott Robertson's How to Draw
https://e-hentai.org/g/1588796/313b11d676/
https://www.mediafire.com/file/a315b5xfrhmdhc2/Scott_Robertson_-_How_to_Draw.pdf/file
>Scott Robertson's How to Render: the fundamentals of light, shadow and reflectivity
https://e-hentai.org/g/1552736/5879054cf3/
>Cache of /m/ artbooks (Patlabor, Gunbuster, Muv-Luv, etc.)
https://mega.nz/folder/VBVDBICa#B9RTAhBwyo63KRJ_tTn9EA
Previous Thread: >>6790069
https://twitter.com/seiko11
(added a few versus last time)
I suppose a single general is better than making single threads.
I've been at it for 5 years now, and today my friend showed me his art and it mogs me to oblivion (he's been drawing and painting for 4 years now)
It was like a bolt of lightning hitting my head. A mixture of jealousy, anxiety, depression and most of all, regret.
The only authors I know of are the Arthur Guptill books, Harold Speed books, and JD Harding's books. Anyone have any more? The older the better!
>get bombarded with endless essays to write
I'm tired
I heard some artists talking about it, what do you guys think?
No NSFW, to differentiate from /sex/ /asg/ /other generals.
Rules:
>All art styles welcome so long as the focus is cutesy girls/ beautiful women. Nobody cares about east vs west debates.
>Males are welcome so long as the image remains female focus.
>For male focused thread post in /cgsg/.
>Do not take the bait or derail. Don't be a sperg.
>Don't fight about different women vs girls, Nobody cares.
>No trans/lolicon/futa/. Go to /sex/ or /lsg/ for that.
Previous thread >>6916963
it SUCKS
J.P said it'll basically fuck you up so bad you'll kill yourself or do rot away.
I have been sorta avoiding drawing even though i'd like to get good at it. I feel very insecure about my extremely lacking artistic ability, though, which is why i've been putting it off for years now.
I still think about it pretty much daily.
Why do they use these chunky lead holders with a bunch of tape wrapped around it? why not just a mechanical pencil?
Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).
Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.
Previous thread: >>7126841
Some resources:
/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asg
Books:
Understanding Comics
Making Comics
Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/Dd4hnZTC#EjMIcTDPLbWXkAJLPHx2Kg
Story: Substance, Structure, Style and the Principles of Screenwriting
https://archive.org/details/RobertMcKeeStorypdf/
Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga
https://kupdf.net/download/even-a-monkey-can-draw-manga_58b9ca16e12e89233badd376_pdf
The Shonen Jump Guide to Making Manga
https://mega.nz/file/i81imLpI#GcheJ9Jjk3lw1RE9nQWgL4RG4wEBNOcRmgA-iaU6Wpg
Videos:
"Manga Senpai/Tokyo Name Tank", "SMAC! THE SILENT MANGA AUDITION COMMUNITY"
Habanero Scans: https://www.dailymotion.com/HabaneroScans/videos
Full MANBEN Series link: https://mega.nz/folder/YQYAGJTR#1PAs3gRYTMoerPapIZTXGg
https://www.naokiurasawa.com/
Urasawa Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIFOAoFm47XOAlJwTa6Ieg/videos
Source of OP image is Dorohedoro volume 1.
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>General resources :
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http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-3.html
http://finaltrinity.tumblr.com/post/13163064364/art-references-tumblr-accounts
>fellowBro's books :
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>Figure Drawing Tool:
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http://posemaniacs.com
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Previous Thread: >>7069893
>Can draw an asaro head from memory
>Try to draw anime
>It’s all symbol drawing and flat and looks like shit
Why?
>be consistent
>the algorithm doesn't favor X over Y
>that's it really!
Nikola Vitol Casual Poses 2 500+ jpg
download link
https://gofile.io/d/YKjFps
If it expires I can reupload
Make requests
Share what you have
Draw your pile of refs
Don't let the thread die, please!
I'll add more later if I have time.
Enjoy everyone! Make lots of art!
I will begin. Will really appreciate critiques.
Props, figures, environments, anything.
Expand that visual library.
>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view
>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video
>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com
>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved? are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them? maybe a redline or a technique, be specific
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So I was initially wondering about the fact that it seems like traditional sculpture is far better preserved than traditional painting. Even the people trying their hardest to copy the old masters simply will never be able to get it right, and certain techniques even at the molecular level of the pigment grinding methods will be lost forever that make all the difference. Sculpture though? It seems like sculpture is just as good as ever, there is no short supply of stone masons ready to make good work if you pay them properly.
Now that isn't exactly a good thing, sculptors of the past would probably be distraught to see modern sculptors reduced to interior decorators, but I kept comparing the processes and realized maybe sculpture is just easier?
The process ultimately comes down to drawing out three dimensionally in marble, and focusing on the skin tones in polychrome. It requires less focus on the positioning of the final image because you cannot control the way you enter the room, and is ultimately just an easier technique.
Is this why sculpture is not just better preserved now, but also why Romans and Greeks were able to create god tier stuff thousands of years ago, but their paintings barely just discovered perspective at the same moment they collapsed? Is sculpture just objectively the easier artform to master, while painting has a harder learning curve?
What are some drawing exercises that can be done for like 8 hours straight? Been practicing ellipses.
pic related.
I've seen people claim "Japs never made anything worthwhile", "Why should I consume *random rec* when there's a better western alternative to it?", etc. more than once in various west vs. east threads
Post here if you don't expect your thread to reach 100+ replies.
Im making a manga set in medieval times, and I dont have enough time to draw dozens or hundreds of knights in armor.
To create art is to create harmony. It is to demonstrate a relationship between the disparate elements of a thing by which those elements all accord with one another. This harmony is beauty.
The way abstract art works is that the artists take a quite random jumble of things, and assert that they are in fact harmonious in some way. This is different than traditional art, which tries to make things actually visually harmonious; it's not creating harmony, it's ASSERTING harmony.
Abstract art is inferior because it relies on the viewer knowing and caring about the assertion the artist makes regarding the beauty in the piece. Generally, abstract art has accomplished this by leveraging institutions (museums, galleries, magazines, etc) to give their assertion of beauty more impact. That's why abstraction didn't really take off until the CIA astroturfed it into existence, by the way. At any rate, once these institutions lose their cultural force, so to do the claims of the artists. If someone who had never heard of abstraction found a Pollock in the trash, he'd think it was some sort of test canvas. It's art that can only exist within a limited cultural context.
This is distinct from art which is too intellectual for the average person to comprehend. Monet wanted to capture the particular character of light, and pursued that goal (showcasing the harmony of light without strict form) intelligently. An intelligent observer can decode Monet's work without knowing anything about Monet, and perceive that value.
Pollocks work, on the other hand, cannot be decoded. Even if it does, as he alleged, create beauty by displaying his subconscious urges, those urges can't be detected by someone viewing the art. If he wrote a description of what he felt he had imparted in a particular painting, the reader would be as informed by the description alone as by the description combined with the painting.
From a soft perspective: any tips for increasing entropy? Maybe through shadows/gradients?
Finch said not to do the Bridgman heads cuz they're weird and use Loomis for heads instead. But personally, I don't find the Bridgman heads half bad. They're good even.
Is Finch cooking and Bridgmenners should skip the heads in favour of Loomis' superior method?
Or is Finch tripping and Bridgman heads cool.
What does /ic/ think?
Introduction for the uninitiated:
Tired of being permabeg? Just grab yourself of a copy of George Bridgman's Complete Guide to Life Drawing and copy the drawings. When you're done, do it again from memory.
Job forces me to move around a lot, it's not "3 years in another country" it's more "5 days here, two weeks there, a month in that city..." so I'm forced to be light...
I'm facing an issue now with ergonomics. I have two "main" setups and they're both kinda painful:
>Setup 1: Sitting on the bed, tablet on my lap.
I get back, neck pain and the occasional wrist pain. Its "comfy" but it's so casual it's hard to lock-in if you get me.
>Setup 2: At the desk, tablet propped with an object.
This one is closer to my home setup and I get a lot less wrist pain from it, but it's far from ideal. The hotel desks tend to be too high and the seats aren't adjustable or soft so a few hours of work will give me stiff shoulders and aching sitbones.
I miss my home setup and desk but it's not something I can bring with me. If anyone has suggestions for portable methods for better ergonomics I'd appreciate the advice...
https://towergirls.booru.org/index.php
Post-free dice rolling tool that you'll ignore:
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Previous Thread: >>7105679
The permabegs that only draw boxes don’t improve because they don’t copy. Trying to learn anime by doing “much realism”and “much boxes” is like trying to learn to speak Chinese without listening or reading actual Chinese. Anime is already done you are not going to be remaking the wheeñ by studying realism to “create your anime style. Just copy. That’s the secret of all fast learners. Do you really think hoarding books or buying this super secret Korean course is going to make you improve? Of course not. You need to copy. Everyone learns by copying.
And no. I am not your mom so, no I am not going try to “convince you”.Take it or leave it. It’s up to you anon if you want to improve or not.
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Nobody cares about capeshit comics anymore and most image/indie series are even nicher than niche manga, not to mention that I doubt America will ever produce something like Patlabor 2 or Macross: Do You Remember Love? despite Arcane and ATLA being good for what they were.
>and a copypasta enjoy:
There's just this "coolness" inherent in gen 1 that was never quite touched upon. The anime paints Red as "Ash" who, despite literally one event of saving his pikachu on bike, literally never grows as a person. Other than he is pretty much the most extroverted person ever. Red is silent.
...
all of RBY is just one INTROVERT dismantling Team Rocket while dominating entirely through his actions. Contrast this with BLUE. Blue is pretty much every incel/mad lad/ douchebag you've ever known. He never rises to the occasion and blames everybody but himself. While he isn't perfect, it's fairly obvious, that BLUE/GARY has it all compared to RED. He has a sister, a renowned grandfather and...no parents? He wants to prove everything and is ultimately jealous you still have your mother, but no father? Why is this never expanded upon?
Oh yeah childrens game. sorry. I just felt like BLUE's attitude vs RED's teached you a lot about how some people are so insecure and that its infinitely better to be a person who speaks by action. That's what POCKET MONSTERS is to me. I always treasured the manga's style, but red is silent. Which is a difficult manga to make.
Down to Gold/Silver, Red's weight is felt through his silence, after being defeated and becoming champion, he just leaves.
POKEMON is about growing up and learning to deal with the way the world works, and even if you must ultimately battle your lesser animal friends to death, you can still make moral decisions. Maybe after becoming champion, Red just releases his pokemon back into the wild or something, fully encompassing a deeper lesson. Even though you manage to always be ONE GYM BEHIND GARY, the only theory I have is this:
The guy that calls you champ in the making?
That's your dad who left keeping an eye on you.
Can you criticize my silent comic
I still an amateur and developing my skills, practicing every day despite my busy university scheduleand your advices and criticism is really important for me because it's direct and real (not sugar coated like the one's I got from my peers)
Thank you
What are your opinions on graffiti culture as an outsider?
Post your crimes
(Bolton, Greater Manchester, England)
Such art can be purchased by people for artistic and/or financial appreciation.
It will also be physical and digital at the same time
Is this wrong in your view for any reason? If yes, why?
(Remember to make better arguments than your average basedtuber, thank you)
>Assume the environment impact is negligible. Less than 4chan's impact, for example
>"Hahahaha show me example of X artist selling good art as NFTs then!"
>I can't, this would probably be considered as "spam" and thus get me banned by the local janny
>I already got banned once thanks to this board, am risking another but I am dreadfully curious
>Thank you for reading this post
i luv miku :3
What do the cool boys do?
I tried asking for advice before but i always get recommended stuff that's way too hard.
I genuinely can't do anything. What do i do to get started and then become progressively better and better?
Webtoon is the ancient Korean art of scrolling comics. Instead of traditional manga/comic pages, panels are spread out individually for easier reading on cell phones.
>So they're just spliced manga/comic pages?
You can do that if you want, but they're fundamentally different for a few reasons. For example, panels tend to be drawn longer to fit phone screens, and traditional 2-page spreads are not possible to fit in scrolling format.
>Are there standard page sizes?
Technically yes, but it depends on which platform you post in. Naver Webtoons uses
800x1280px, but the site automatically splices & resizes images anyway.
>Do I have to make it in color?
If you want subscribers, yes.
>Why would I make one?
To be rich & famous, of course. All jokes aside, the pay is low if you're lucky enough to get hired in the first place, the deadlines are more brutal than the manga industry, and the average reader age floats around 11. But as a novel medium with a growing industry, it may still be worthwhile enough for you to experiment.
>RESOURCES
https://www.clipstudio.net/how-to-draw/archives/157055
https://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/articles/2792
https://studio.lemoon.io/en/10-things-to-know-before-creating-a-webtoon
>WHERE TO PUBLISH
https://www.webtoons.com/en/
https://tapas.io/
https://globalcomix.com/
https://namicomi.com/en
https://www.lezhinus.com/en/ (Application only)
previous thread: >>7073603
Practicing urban sketching is the only thing that gets me out of the house, and it has been essential for me to improve my freehand drawing and observation. I usually only carry 3 fine line pens and a sketchbook, but I'm thinking of getting some watercolors. I usually go to squares that aren't very busy, as I still have difficulty dealing with crowded environments.
It's a very positive and therapeutic activity. I used to be very depressed, but when I'm in crisis I always take my materials and go out to draw, regardless of the time of day. I don't think about making beautiful or perfect drawings, I just let the stream of consciousness flow and capture the essence
Draw 8 hours a day.
That's literally you have to do. People who can do that, will become professional artists. People who can't, won't make it. It doesn't matter how "optimal" your study routine is. If you don't draw enough, you won't make it. And if you do draw 8 hours a day, it doesn't matter how shit your studies are, you will improve rapidly. Install a timer app asap, and set it to 8 hours. Reset that timer every single morning. Pause the timer when you are not holding stylus to canvas. Run that timer down to 0:00:00, every single day, as far as possible.
This is the dividing line between failures, and those whose dreams come true.
Ganbatte, anon.
I know there's the drawaboxpill, the vilppu pill, the Huston pill, the dynamic Bible pill, the sightsize pill, the proko pill
Can someone create a diagram showing where all these pills overlap and what directions they go
I kinda got used to popular manga like modern jjk/csm looking like rushed shit
I imagine they flake a lot like Facebook market sales too though
>terrible at painting
>terrible at animation
>terrible at storyboarding
>terrible at comics
>terrible at perspective
>terrible at design
>only relatively okay at drawing a figure floating in a void, with no real perspective
what kind of art career can I even have, with just the ability to draw big booba anime girls in a white void?
Which art career is easiest for me to pivot into?
Reading his biography he was more of a curiosity on a genius, more than someone that actually left a legacy.
He was more an extreme outlier, rather than someone that left a massive body of work or innovations for humanity.
Any help is appreciated
But I think I've seen a very similar artist with an extremely similar style.
Is my friend tracing and art stealing?
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>I have seen so many middle-aged artists still hoping, whose samples are frayed at the edges, and thumb-marked with time. Sometimes it has been a matter of years since they sat down and actually did something to give their hopes any promise. They are plodding their lives away at something they hate, and doing nothing about it. These are the men who never seem to have had a chance. The truth is, they never seized a chance.
- Andrew Loomis, Creative Illustration
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Read the fucking sticky: http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/
Recommended Resources:
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i give up
time to fucking die
How are artists going to prove they draw anythign anymore? How can they pull art like this while having habitual tracers like Greg Land, Mike Deodato, David Mack, etc, etc employed and selling their tracings as real art? For manga, they trace all the time and some manga are tim buckly tier with cut and paste eyes and noses on 3d models basically. Why do people care if its AI if it looks like artgerm or other digital rendered copycats?
Even trying while maintaining a day job still feels pointless. I already work full time so what's the use in chasing some impossible dream?
I always thought cowboys were really cool.
There is so much difference between my drawings using a reference vs the ones made from imagination, should I focus more on studying references or get more experience in imagination drawings?