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What made Conan the Barbarian a character that's been able to survive in the cultural consciousness for almost 100 years?
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>the medicalization of mental health issues serves to insulate late capitalism from criticism for the role its economic policies play in societies declining mental health

>you're depressed because you aren't taking the proper medication
>NOT because year after year your workload gets bigger, your boss more uncaring, your wages more stagnant, and your cost of living only higher

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what books do they read?
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/wbg/ Worldbuilding General
Love and Worldbuilding Edition

Welcome to /wbg/, the official thread for the discussion and development of fictional worlds and settings.
Here is where you can share the details of your created worlds such as lore, factions, magic systems, ecosystems and more. You can also post maps for your settings, as well as any relevant art, either created by you or used as inspiration for your work. Please remember that dialogue is what keeps the thread alive, so don't be afraid of giving someone feedback!

>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/. We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.

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What's your estimated release date for The Winds of Winter?
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Hey /lit/ which language is more worth studying? Ancient greek or ancient latin?
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Admit it. You got filtered and passed by the greatest philosopher of modernity.
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Watch how Buddhists/jeetoids/ shake and cower when someone with an IQ over 100 and the most rudimentary metaphysical literacy analyzes their mess of a worldview.
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Best books on bodybuilding or weight lifting? Can be literature or non-fic. No Sun and Steel.
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Reading makes people think I’m stupid.
>read a lot, don’t talk much
>initially people think I’m smart
>open my mouth
>constantly mispronounce words because the English language is piss and I say them how they’re spelled
>my friend even keeps a list of words I’ve mispronounced that made him laugh his ass off
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Wordsworth Classics new editions
They started redesigning their main series last year and I didn't notice until now. Pic rel is their new covers for Dostoevsky. Thoughts?
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Which book writers are equivalent of David Lynch?
Are these kind of works just limited to short stories or are there novels that focus on surreal stuff as well? I'm not talking about Finnegan's Wake type of literature but books where events are surreal and mostly not easily explained.
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Controversial authors
Can someone explain this to me? I am not trying to bait anyone. I want a genuine answer.

How can someone who is pro-gay, pro-blm, pro-immigration, pro-open-boarders, pro-big-government, pro-Muslim, and pro-affirmative-action be so anti-trans? To the point that she doesn’t consider trans-women to be women and almost calls them IT?

Like, even more rich racist people try to hide their prejudices. People only found out about Hulk Hogen’s comments because he was recorded against his knowing.
Meanwhile Rowling lets her hatred be known all throughout Twitter. Why?

Why does she even care? She was okay with black Hermione and gay Dumbledore, yet a man dressing as a woman is the line?
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Who successfully refuted nominalism?
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/lit/ equivalent?
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Edmund Burke
Actually good or just a retarded chud like Carlyle?
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What am I in for?
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Diet Sotos.
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KJV typo
Genesis 38:14
> And she put her widow's garments off from her, and covered her with a vail, and wrapped herself, and sat in an open place, which is by the way to Timnath; for she saw that Shelah was grown, and she was not given unto him to wife
>covered her with a veil
This is a grammatical error. It should be “covered herself with a veil”.
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I'm genuinely considering taking so many drugs that I develop schizophrenia in an effort to be as good a writer as Pynchon is.
Will this work?
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Write What's On Your Mind
Eating a dead horse edition
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Why'd he do it?
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Every time I go down the "why did DFW kill himself" rabbit hole I end up hearing the same story. His anti-depressants were causing side effects, he went off them, got depressed, went back on them, but they weren't working like before. This never made much sense to me. One, it's very clear from the medical literature that the serotonin-deficiency model of depressive pathology has been thoroughly debunked (and never actually had any evidence to support it in the first place) These drugs are essentially placebos and that he would kill himself over the absence of a mild placebo effect beguiles belief.
He'd been sober for a long time by the point he killed himself and there's no evidence he relapsed. He was involved in AA and sponsoring people and so probably at least relatively spiritually content, you kind of have to be to conquer drug addiction and actually stay sober, which he did. Obviously he wasn't suffering from poverty or a lack of success with women. Finally most suicides are a result of impulse decisions not careful calculations made because of the efficacy of one's medical regimen. Obviously we are not being told the full story and honestly my theory is Jews killed him.
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Do you buy all your classics from same publishers? On the other hand I would like to collect Everyman's Library books but I kind a thing that it looks stupid if your bookshelf is too uniform, it looks like you were just subscribed to some book club and probably hadn't read those books so maybe it's better to buy from different publishers every once in a while
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Why yes, I only sort my books in alphabetical ascending order. What made you guess that?
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Best books on social darwinism?
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Both in favor and against. Recently read might is right by Ragnar Redbeard, and was curious about the philosophy and more than just "le nature".
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>”oh my god some random China man on the other side of the world caused the long night!!!11”

Why does this book attract and filter so many retards
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/clg/ - Classical Languages General
Arthurian edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·

NOTE: replace ' dot ' with an actual dot to access the links below
>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

Feel free to write your thoughts/stories/etc... in your target language.

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko
You are very welcome to suggest additions/changes/etc... especially for other classical languages
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Reminder that women read more than men only because it's their primary form of porn consumption. Most girls who're "avid readers" will have what's essentially a Goon Shelf stacked with nothing but erotic romance literature.
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>this 97 year old diner still serves coke the old fashion way
Is there any /lit/ that encompasses the vibe of that diner?
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Do you annotate while you read?
What does it look like?
Personally I don't like to write in books. I note things down separately during or after reading.
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Anyone else write under candle light?
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Novels set during or around the turn of the 20th century?
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describe this image with the best prose you can
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Why do I never see this nominated as the Great American Novel?
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Are audiobooks cheating?
I love literature, but I find reading itself to be very difficult. It may just be that I’m not that intelligent or, more likely, my severe ADHD, but I find reading itself very difficult and often get distracted, slowing my actual reading pace down to a crawl. Recently though, I’ve discovered audiobooks and fallen in love with them. Now I can put one on while doing chores and working out, all the while learning and expanding my knowledge. Do you consider this cheating though?
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I need your help /lit/
How do I learn to write cool passages like the excerpt in picrel? It sounds so badass but I can't for the life of me how to write something similarly evocative
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Books about sexuality
I read this book because I was interested in making my sexual encounters more exciting.

>Women want to have sex as much as we do.

>Women have a wide variety of crazy sexual fantasies.

>Foreplay is of GREAT importance in the sexual act.

>Penis size is not so important if you know how to play your tricks well

>Penis size is not so important if you know how to play your tricks well

>If it is a sexual friend or a girlfriend with whom you have been interacting for a long time, it is good to try various good things so that the excitement is not lost.

>The first sexual act is always the most uncomfortable due to the lack of trust on both sides.

>Women like to be treated dirty during sexual intercourse when they trust each other

The book has many more tips but if I start saying them all the thread would never end. Well, if you have read the book, what did you think? What are your opinions? Any others you recommend?
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How do you write lines that resonate with people? Is it a matter of luck? You know how you can say
>I guess that cunt getting eaten
And people know immediately what the reference is
How do I achieve that?
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Catholic literature thread - post recommendations that are not Tolkien.
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What are you working on at the moment, /lit/?
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Various /lit/ publications have come and gone: The Lit Quarterly, Pinecone, The April Reader, and Ideology, to name a few. There have been collaborative works, like Coronameron, The /lit/ Annotated Moby Dick, Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra, and The Complete Works of God II. Some of these projects were one-offs, some were serialized. Some /lit/ projects, like Unreal Press, are still hanging on but are plagued by drama, and some, like &amp, seem to be rapidly in decline.

Also related are the solo writers of /lit/, composed of various namefags and shills who frequent the board: MNM-DR, John David Card, Zulu Alitspa, Frater Asemlen, Horia Belcea, Ogden Nesmer, Lewis Woolston. There are also those who did not come from /lit/ but are /lit/-adjacent simply because they are discussed here so frequently: Mike Ma, R. C. Waldun, Bronze Age Pervert.

This thread is for the discussion of the history of /lit/ writing and the future of /lit/. Why have so many /lit/ projects failed and fallen apart, and what do you think is next for the scene? Does anonymity vs pseudonymity vs. the use of real names make a difference in the success or failure of these projects, and the way in which these projects are perceived? Of the works that /lit/ has produced, are there common characteristics and themes shared between them? Is there a definitively /lit/ style of writing? Has /lit/ produced anything truly great, and if not, do you believe that it will in the future?
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Wait. Hold on. Stop typing your low quality and generic Blood Meridian analysis. Every time you move your finger, you are mentally commanding physical matter. How the FUCK is that even possible
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what could possibly be the difference between philosophy and fiction?
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Just marathoned the first 20 pages. When does it get good?
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Do their suicides remind us that we cannot live without God in our lives?
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Joyce Carol Oates
She wrote some pretty dark stuff for such an inoffensive little woman
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What's the /lit/ equivalent besides Hard Boiled Wonderland; fiction that evokes the same uncanny curiosity and existencial dread?
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latest /lit/ meetup in new england. Who do you think is the most well read?
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> First Loud-croaker wounded Lickman in the belly, right through the midriff. Down fell he on his face and soiled his soft fur in the dust: he fell with a thud and his armour clashed about him. Next Troglodyte shot at the son of Mudman, and drove the strong spear deep into his breast; so he fell, and black death seized him and his spirit flitted forth from his mouth. Then Beety struck Pot-visitor to the heart and killed him, and Bread-nibbler hit Loud-crier in the belly, so that he fell on his face and his spirit flitted forth from his limbs. Now when Pond-larker saw Loud-crier perishing, he struck in quickly and wounded Troglodyte in his soft neck with a rock like a mill-stone, so that darkness veiled his eyes. Thereat Ocimides was seized with grief, and struck out with his sharp reed and did not draw his spear back to him again, but felled his enemy there and then.
This had Bronze Age boomers pissing and shitting themselves in laughter.
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/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General
Sunday Edition.

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)

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You HAVE read Empress Theresa, right /lit/?
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Prince of Wales
What is /lit/'s favourite play by Shakespeare?
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What are some good pro-tech books?
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/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General
Green Angel Tower edition

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)

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peircean gnosticism
>Pain is the foundation of consciousness, something easily demonstrated by noting that it is the singular sensory experience that rationality cannot interfere with. You may as well argue that you can rationally "decide" to see blue where you're seeing red.
>The God that observes us as objects is merely a subject to an object (whatever it is contra whatever it is not)
>We're trapped inside one half of the dyad, and we can experience nothing but a vacillation in pain until we die
>The sum total of conscious experiences forms a kind of horrific field of suffering

>The Gnostics believed that the Demiurge was an evil entity that created an imperfect, horrific torture box to torment us into infinity and that the true God, whatever the totality of the "object" that our creator demon was beholden to as a constituent element, was in some way a force of salvation. They just didn't have way to conceptualize what that "true God" actually was. The best they could come up with was that it was equivalent to "pure light".

How to continue developing this anon's line of thought?
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I want to start reading some of his stuff but the internet tells me that all it is actually about gay sex and fighting for lgbt stuff. Is this true?
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Everyone's dad had a copy of this, right?
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Is there a book collecting this kind of crap?
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Your favourite character ever?
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Post some of your favorite history books.

We need more good biographies/autobiographies in these threads.

>The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt begins at the apex of his international prestige. That was on New Year’s Day, 1907, when TR, who had just won the Nobel Peace Prize, threw open the doors of the White House to the American people and shook 8,150 hands. One visitor remarked afterward, “You go to the White House, you shake hands with Roosevelt and hear him talk—and then you go home to wring the personality out of your clothes.”

>The rest of this book tells the story of TR’s irresistible rise to power. During the years 1858–1901, Theodore Roosevelt transformed himself from a frail, asthmatic boy into a full-blooded man. Fresh out of Harvard, he simultaneously published a distinguished work of naval history and became the fist-swinging leader of a Republican insurgency in the New York State Assembly. He chased thieves across the Badlands of North Dakota with a copy of Anna Karenina in one hand and a Winchester rifle in the other. Married to his childhood sweetheart in 1886, he became the country squire of Sagamore Hill on Long Island, a flamboyant civil service reformer in Washington, D.C., and a night-stalking police commissioner in New York City. As assistant secretary of the navy, he almost single-handedly brought about the Spanish-American War. After leading “Roosevelt’s Rough Riders” in the famous charge up San Juan Hill, Cuba, he returned home a military hero, and was rewarded with the governorship of New York. In what he called his “spare hours” he fathered six children and wrote fourteen books. By 1901, the man Senator Mark Hanna called “that damned cowboy” was vice president. Seven months later, an assassin’s bullet gave TR the national leadership he had always craved.

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>woman writes about depression
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ITT: Historical Shitposts
"A Song of a Young Lady to Her Ancient Lover"
John Wilmot, Earl of Rochester

Ancient person, for whom I
All the flattering youth defy,
Long be it ere thou grow old,
Aching, shaking, crazy, cold;
But still continue as thou art,
Ancient person of my heart.

On thy withered lips and dry,
Which like barren furrows lie,
Brooding kisses I will pour
Shall thy youthful [heat] restore
(Such kind showers in autumn fall,
And a second spring recall);
Nor from thee will ever part,
Ancient person of my heart.

Thy nobler part, which but to name
In our sex would be counted shame,
By age’s frozen grasp possessed,
From [his] ice shall be released,
And soothed by my reviving hand,
In former warmth and vigor stand.
All a lover’s wish can reach
For thy joy my love shall teach,
And for they pleasure shall improve
All that art can add to love.
Yet still I love thee without art,
Ancient person of my heart.
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If Nietzsche was Dutch, his most famous quote would be “god is dood en we hebben hem vermoord”
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the blood's floridian
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Reminder that in the actual books Merry is a huge Chad and one of the smartest members of the Fellowship. He's also the main reason Frodo is able to get out of the Shire successfully.
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In La Respuesta (The Answer), Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz compares the obsidional crown to the crown of thorns placed upon Christ's head at his crucifixion as part of an extended metaphor about the suffering and persecution brought against all who display greater intelligence:

But upon seeing so many and diverse crowns, I pondered which sort the crown given to Christ might be; and I think it must be the obsidional crown, which (as you know, my Lady) conferred the greatest honor and was called "obsidional" from obsidio, which means "siege." This crown was made neither of gold nor silver, but of the very grasses growing in the field where the brave deed was carried out. And Christ's feat was to raise the siege of the Prince of Darkness, who had encircled the entire earth, as Satan himself says in the Book of Job: "I have gone round about the earth, and walked through it"; and as St. Peter says of him, "Your adversary [the devil] goeth about seeking whom he may devour."' And our Chieftain came, and made Satan raise the siege: "Now shall the prince of this world be cast out." Thus, the soldiers crowned Him with neither gold nor silver, but with the plant springing up throughout the world, which was their field of battle. For after the curse, "Thorns and thistles shall it bring forth to thee," this world produced nothing but thorns.
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can someone tell me if this book is good?
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ungehueres ungeziefer
is it just a metaphorical narrative on the final stages of wasting from terminal illness and the ensuing estrangement?
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This arrives tomorrow, what am I in for? Will I like it as much as I enjoyed as I lay dying and the sound and the fury? Or more?
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>women created an entire genre of literature to explain exactly what they want and men call it trash
Is this true? Is it possible to learn how to get women by reading romance novels?
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/wg/ Writing General
"Why can't I be good" Edition

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Please limit excerpts to one post.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.
If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.
Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.

Simple guides on writing:
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>No, you, can't, just, put, commas, wherever, you, like! You, just, can't, ok!
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- The most popular Russian authors in the US are Tolstoy and Dostoevsky (Russians don't care for them and prefer Pushkin and Turgenev).

- The most popular American authors in Russia are Jack London and James Fenimore Cooper (Americans don't care for them and prefer Stephen King and Brandon Sanderson).
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I understand why normies mouth obeisance to the current thing, but by what process do some of them become so obsessed with it that they'll literally burn themselves alive (or wear a mask in public in 2024)? Are there psychology books about this?
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hey guys, just started reading blood meridian. gotta say, this judge holden fella seems like kind of a jerk.
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For the christians of /lit/
When, how, and why did you decide to follow Christ? I am agnostic and have thought about considering christianity but I wonder about whether or not it is worth it
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You know, for all that he got attention for asking about Aragorn's tax policy, I'm honestly not sure if George has a very good grasp of economic policy himself.

Like, how the fuck does the Iron Bank of Braavos work? It just... has money? So much money that it can randomly lend to entire kingdoms? It doesn't seem to generate any income, I guess it gets income from interest on loans? Or something?

There weren't even banks as such in the Middle Ages, you had the Templars and that's pretty much it.
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Why do people like this wigga so much?
He seems to be more of an important historical figure and mediator more than anything else. Rasselas and his introductions are pretty good but overall a pretty meagre contribution to literature to be cherished this fondly. The selections of his essays in the Rambler and Idler was pretty underwhelming, why not just read Montaigne or Bacon’s essays instead? (I got the Oxford world classics the major works btw)

His personality might be that great to warrant his fame, but right now I’m not getting to Boswell’s biography anytime soon…
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Handwriting vs typing
The ultimate battle
Which do you prefer and why?
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i'm troon btw : )
stack thread
post your current stack
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What’s your favorite piece of homoerotic literature?
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There are no good American novelists
The absence of commendable American novelists is emblematic of a cultural milieu fixated on superficiality, where literary works are replete with flamboyance but bereft of substance.

In stark contrast, Russian novelists exemplify a tradition steeped in intellectual vigor, producing narratives of immense depth and profound significance.
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What are some books that offer justifications for suicide?
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What do you think of my classic /lit/ bingo, /lit/?

Sorry, made this at work so I can't type and save "nigger" in a word document
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Does anyone here own Plato's Complete Works? Would love to have all his stuff in collection but I'm bit worried that such a big book will be awkward to read and just stays in my shelf so I'm trying to decide if I should just buy the most essential stuff in couple invididual editions instead
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Charles Sanders Peirce Against Gnosticism
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tl;dr Peirce hated gnosticism:
>Peirce dismisses a Gnostic dualist cosmology wherein eros is one of two equal but opposite creative powers. This is evident in his interest in the anti-Gnostic St. John, “the ontological Gospeller.” In Peirce’s account, strife, hatred, and evil “are mere imperfect stages of agapé and agathón, love and loveliness.” Peirce’s account of love, then, mirrors the Neo-Platonist versions of eros found in Plotinus and Jacob Boehme. Though neither Boehme nor Plotinus is named in this essay, he named both in his article “The Law of Mind,” which appeared in the Monist just six months earlier.
painsisters, our response?
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Will the concept of artistic genius die with Gen X?
Millennials haven't produced a single remarkable writer despite being in their 30s and 40s, while the greatest Gen X and boomer writers all debuted and were recognized before or in their 30s.
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Plato's Statesman
plato statesman
>read the whole dialogue three times
>read a bunch of commentaries on it, including several graduate dissertations on it
>still have no idea what the fuck a "due measure" is
... I guess by analogy it's something akin to a paradigm or a goal? e.g. the weaver makes a sweater out of wool for the purpose of staying warm, and if he makes it efficiently (with no waste) and it the sweater itself keeps the wearer warm in the winter, then the due measure has been attained?

That's all I got bros.
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star trek
star trek has a unusual take on sci fi. a mix of military scifi but utopian adventure thriller. i've read most of the books and seen all the shows but something as popular as this must have inspired similar stories. any suggestions?
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Why did Henry hate old people so much?
>What old people say you cannot do you try and find that you can. Old deeds for old people, and new deeds for new. Old people did not know enough once, perchance, to fetch fresh fuel to keep the fire a-going; new people put a little dry wood under a pot, and are whirled round the globe with the speed of birds, in a way to kill old people, as the phrase is. Age is no better, hardly so well, qualified for an instructor as youth, for it has not profited so much as it has lost. One may almost doubt if the wisest man has learned any thing of absolute value by living. Practically, the old have no very important advice to give the young, their own experience has been so partial, and their lives have been such miserable failures, for private reasons, as they must believe; and it may be that they have some faith left which belies that experience, and they are only less young than they were. I have lived some thirty years on this planet, and I have yet to hear the first syllable of valuable or even earnest advice from my seniors. They have told me nothing, and probably cannot tell me any thing to the purpose. Here is life, an experiment to a great extent untried by me; but it does not avail me that they have tried it. If I have any experience which I think valuable, I am sure to reflect that this my Mentors said nothing about.
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What would've he made of AI?
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notes from underground dostoevsky
Well, which is better?
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>find a blog giving writing advice
>they advertise their book
>read a fragment
>its absolute trash
Why do people who give writing advice on the Internet write like shit 90% of the time?
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What's the best Hitler biography?
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Do you have (or had) any penpals, anon? How often do you write to each other? And what do you like the most about it?
I personally really liked receiving my penpal friend's letter. It's fascinating to witness their thoughts unfolding through these somewhat ''literary'' exercises, and see which particular details caught their attention in the long term.
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Worst Book Reviews
What is the worst or most disagreeable book review you have ever read?
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The book club is looking far a new book. So far we've read:
>Prince of Thorns
>The Book That Wouldn't Burn
>Hell's Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs
>The Coming of Conan
>The Fountainhead
>Ruby Ridge: The Truth And Tragedy of the Weaver Family
>Communion (picrel)
>Blood Meridian
>American Psycho

Communion got weird when Whitley was saying he had sex with Ishtar and saw a praying mantis riding a motorcycle with a flaming skull. We did find the book interesting though, and would like to read more /x/ direction stuff, although we're not really all that interested in schizoposting. Most of us are Art Bell fans as well, if that helps. Any suggestions?
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Who should I read and/or how well read should I be before picking up anything by DFW?
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>bought used book online
>"For Kelly: You were my favorite girl that night. T.P."
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Greeks vs Romans
I understand that Roman mythology is basically ripped from the Greeks; but it never occured to me why since I started to read The Aeneid by Virgil. The whole opening has pretty much been plagerised from Homer's Odysessy. I found it very distracting.
But what I want to know is why is Roman mythology so unoriginal? Did the Romans suffer from some kind of cultural handicap that made them unable to create their myths and religions? Also, is The Aeneid worth reading despite the clear derivative nature of the work?
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Stuart Little
Just got this bad boy, what am I in for?
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God emperor of dune makes no sense
Ok so I get that leto wanted to breed siona because she has the genes that prevent people with psychic powers from seeing what she does and that will prevent humanity from being enslaved by psychics like himself a second time BUT doesn't he realize the second after he's dead the bene tleilax will send assassins after her and all the other left over atreides? If he really wanted to save the human race he would have exiled them to a colony in the middle of nowhere instead of leaving them on arrakis to die in the ensuing chaos.
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Oedipus Coloneus and King Lear
There are so many striking similarities between the stories of Oedipus and Lear. And, considering that Shakespeare probably did not read Sophocles, I have to assume they plunged into some essential or archetypal source in the Western soul, or perhaps a greater metaphysical truth? Two old men, former kings, indignant and furious in the face of the world, nearing the end of their lives, wandering in nature, looking for some small shelter to rest themselves, bearing two loveless children (who kill each other) and one loyal child (in both cases a female), at once blessed and cursed by God, achieving spiritual enlightenment, etc. You could go on far longer naming resemblances. One even finds the blinding theme, with the subsequent gaining of spiritual sight, appearing in the form of Gloucester's plot. There is an inimitable potency to it all, like a genuine religious revelation. And I cannot but think of them together.

Am I the only, or has anyone else noticed this?
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I didn't like this book. I enjoyed the read but completely disagree with the ideas and themes set forth.
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Wouldn’t you niggers need the prescient of dubiously aforementioned parapraxis? Then why do you niggers exist?
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>Doing the hyperactive news wrong so you get the ‘wrong capitalism’
Books for this retardation?
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I need some recommendations. Maybe some chart would be great.
My top 15 (just a list, not numbered) is:
Là-Bas by Huysmans
Gravity's Rainbow by Pynchon
The Human Stain by Roth
The Possibility of an Island by Houellebecq
Journey to the end of the Night by Céline
New York Trilogy by Auster
Platform by Houellebecq
I Married a Communist by Roth
2666 by Bolaño
Anéantir by Houellebecq
The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea by Mishima
Death on the Installment Plan by Céline
Disgrace by Coetzee
The Fall by Camus
Limonov by Carrère
The Rules of Attraction by Ellis

I don't really care if it's a "pseud" or "bad" list. I'm here asking for recommendations. I don't care about your judgement. Thank you for your help. I'm young and want to read good, caustic and provocative stuff.
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>faced with the problem of getting extorted by local Don
>sit down to think of a solution
"for the first time in his life, Vito Corleone realized that he could think much more clearly than anyone he had ever met"
>his genius solution is just killing the guy
oh wow einstein, please rent me your brain for a day
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Does anyone know if Prometheus Trust's editions of Taylor's Platonic dialogs have modern typesetting and anachronisms like the long s removed? Are there any other modern printings of Taylor's translations that I should consider instead? I've looked around online and nothing looks legit.
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What the fuck did I just read?
I literally couldn't make it past chapter 1 because the book was so hard to follow. I've never read Wallace before, not even infinite jest but I have read some metafiction stuff from authors like Barth, Gaddis, Pynchon. Apparently these writers served as a muse for Wallace but his books take themselves more seriously while the other's wrote for comedic purposes.
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>If niggers had an umpteenth amount of verbal cost to subdue;
Literature related
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Gf is into new age spirituality?
My girlfriend is intensely troubled with her past and can’t get over it. We talk about spirituality and she reads a ton of new age self help books (Eckhart Tolle, Neale Donald Walsch) that teach the same comforting lessons in the Bible but without Christ, so I’m afraid she is being possessed by demonic spirits, wolves in sheep’s clothing who offer the answers but just want money and power

She says fuck religion and I wanted to read crime and punishment with her but she says no way.

I said the only way to find peace is so admit you are a sinner, believe Jesus died for our sins, and repent and ask for Gods grace.. And she said “no I can find all the answers on my own”
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what books to read when you are having daily meltdowns?
I just cant take it anymore, everyday I dive in dispair and hopelessness
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I'm on chapter 13. Does this shit get good again? I was enjoying it when the kid was on his own.

I loved The Road, Stella Maris, and No Country For Old Men, but this shit is dragging.
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how do you deal with being ass.
I want to start writing that sick ass epic fantasy story I have in my head but I'm shit at actually writing, my only motivation is that 20 nerds on the internet will read it and think it's good, is this feasable?
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Books about people who live on the margins of society?
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Any other "evil" rags to riches stories?
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Why don’t you stupid retard niggers enjoy threads without the nigger retardation? I’d figure people who supposedly truss books to another could insinuate more popular rhetoric.
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books that deal with hatred and a desire for revenge
Recommend me books where the protagonist or one of the characters want to take revenge on others and is ideologically driven by antihuman feelings, displaying a misanthrope or mysognist nature, either is fine. I've already read the autobiography of Elliot Rodger and it was nice because thematically is just that. One of the movies I like is Rampage, so any books with the same thematic or feeling would be nice. A novel where the protagonist is a psycopath that enjoys inflicting suffering on others would be nice as well. Thank you in advance /lit/frens.
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what does /lit/ think of Karl Popper just pick this up
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Reddit: the book
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Book Review (7/50): The Claw of the Conciliator - Gene Wolfe (1981)
This whole book is a series of fake paintings and secret room, Severian moves along the novel just like the notules' flight is at one point described as a black rag which "seemed to be blown along by the wind, though the rippling of the grass showed that they faced it." A strange purposefulness still subject to the winds.

In this volume, more than any other in this tetralogy, it really feels like Wolfe is trying to teach us how to read his work. Nowhere is this clearer than in the Tale of the Student and His Son and Dr. Talos' play Eschatology and Genesis. Both contain major aspects of the work as a whole, and each emphasises on a different one, indeed almost opposite ones, in the aspects of myth and prophecy in TBOTNS and how these should be taken and interpreted by readers, and yet never giving any answers with regards to what is the one true way to take and use them as a part of a greater whole. However, what each individual takes from either one of these will invariably have a huge effect on their own interpretation of the entire text, and what that one true meaning could possibly be to them.

The previous volume was Wolfe teaching us to pay attention to and examine the smaller things to be able to form a more accurate image of the world Severian inhabits and therefore primes us to be able to attempt the same with the vast things he fleshes and lays out in this one. I can very easily see why some people say this is the most challenging, but also most rewarding volume of the entire work, Wolfe gives us an entire universe of meaning, but only in whispered and hushed hints. Reading through I felt like its really here that the deeper foundations of the entirety of the New Sun series becomes a many branched tree, branches often looping back onto themselves and overlapping each other creating a tapestry of possible meanings and understanding. It's almost like a choose-your-own-adventure story, every readers personality and experiences takes him along a different path and to a different set of answers

Much like the worm gnawing at the heart of the sun, Father Inire has been the black hole burning his way into my consciousness as I read this volume. While on my first read I simply didn't understand, and on my second I saw him as a benevolent mirror to Abaia/Erebus influencing Severian towards his destiny of bringing the New Sun, this time I can't help but see Inire almost everywhere.And rather than gently prodding Severian towards his destiny, to me he might as well be prodding Sev in the right direction with a stick. That is if my current interpretation is anywhere close to Wolfe's own intention, one which no-one will ever be able to know, an equal beauty and curse of these books.
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Poetry thread.
Post your own or any other pieces you'd like to. Discuss/critique/rate, have a good time [optional].
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post some great books that are not /lit/ canon
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This is the most anti-feminist author you will ever see in your life.
It is not based on predetermined precepts and is based on logical premises.
and is known to me.
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Are most of his writings just the result of cocaine-induced psychosis?
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Do you enjoy spy novels à la James Bond?
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Bulgakov was the greatest thinker of the 20th century and he is never discussed on here
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Will you copping RuPaul's new book, chat?
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