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"/lit/ - Literature" is 4chan's board for the discussion of books, authors, and literature.

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lit
/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

Looking for books online? Check here:
Guide to #bookz
https://www.geocities.ws/prissy_90/Media/Texts/BookzHelp19kb.htm
Bookzz
http://b-ok.cc/
http://libgen.rs/
Recommended Literature
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading
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The most important topic of our times: The Counter-Initiation
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Rene Guenon, in ‘The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times’, laid out phases of the destruction of sacred tradition at the end of the Latter Days, the Kali-Yuga: First Anti-Tradition, which is more or less synonymous with secularism or materialism; then (or concurrently) the spread of Pseudo-Initiation, which appears most clearly in our time as the New Age movement; and finally Counter-Tradition and Counter-Initiation. Anti-Tradition is the province of skeptics; Pseudo-Initiation, in the imbalanced or deluded; Counter-Initiation, if the conscious enemies of true spirituality, particularly initiatory or esoteric spirituality.

The Counter-Initiation bears six fundamental marks:
>(1) “Exoterically” it espouses a horizontal, worldly, quasi-political unity of religions rather than a vertical, transcendent, spiritual one;
>(2) “Esoterically” it holds to form a predatory “spiritual Darwinism” based upon a Luciferian counterfeit of the Hierarchy of Being, where higher levels represent not more subtle, capacious, luminous and concrete realities as discerned by the Intellect, but greater degrees of power and authority as achieved (or supposedly achievable) by the will;
>(3) It grows in large part out of legitimate esoteric organizations which have deviated and consequently inverted, most likely because they have abandoned the various religious revelations to which they owe their existence;
>(4) It gives the horizontal antiquity of its supposed origins precedence over the sense of vertical derivation from Divine Revelation, which it either de-emphasizes or denies; consequently it defies matter and replaces Eternity with endless time;
>(5) It defines religion as a man-made affair in which the human relationship with “spiritual” powers is not reverential but utilitarian, thus reducing esoterism to a purely technical knowledge that is free to express itself in terms of psychic or technological magic, thus deifying matter by a different route;
>(6) It mis-applies the norms of the individual spiritual path to the supposed spiritual evolution of macrocosm or the human collective.

Or, to put it more simply: syncretism, inverted hierarchy, deviated esoterism, dominance of history over Revelation, Prometheus magic, and spiritual evolutionism.


Discuss.

What is your experience with the Counter-Initiation?
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Lit truecrime books.
What true crime books are good literature and worth reading? It's hard to sort the good from the trashy.
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Crusades
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Looking for books about The Crusades
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Ideal in Greek sculpture
>strong, dominant
Ideal in Christian sculpture
>skinny, oppressed
Was he right?
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why is science fiction so fucking kino?
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The_Glow_Pt._2_(Front_Cover)
ITT: post an album and get a book rec
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Bad scholarship
Orientalism,_first_edition
Post books that are outdated and full of motivated reasoning but continue to be treated as serious scholarship I'm academic circles.
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/wg/ Writing General
silly-horse-richard-bryce
A horse is a horse, of course.

Previous bread

>>20370652

For General Writing
>The Rhetoric of Fiction, Booth
>Writing Fiction: A Guide to Narrative Craft, Burroway
>Steering the Craft, Le Guin
>The Anatomy of Story, Truby
>How Fiction Works, Wood

YouTube Playlists for Writing
>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTCv6n1whoI23GmdBZienRW0Q0nFCU_ay Robert Butler
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6HOdHEeosc [Embed] [Open] [Open] [Open] [Open] Brandon Sanderson

Technical Aspects of Writing
>Garner's Modern English Usage, Garner
>What Editors Do: The Art, Craft, and Business of Book Editing, Ginna
>Artful Sentences: Syntax as Style, Tufte

Books Analyzing Literature
>Poetics, Aristotle
>Hero With a Thousand Faces, Campbell
>The Art Of Dramatic Writing: Its Basis in the Creative Interpretation of Human Motives, Egri
>The Weekend Novelist, Ray

Traditional Publishing
>don’t
>you make 10-15% profit max
>self publishing you make 70%+
>they’ll still require you to do all the leg work of a self published author anyways

Self Publishing Options
>https://archiveofourown.org/
>https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/
>https://www.kobo.com/us/en/p/writinglife
>https://www.royalroad.com/
>https://www.scribblehub.com/
>https://www.wattpad.com/

Self Publishing How-To
>https://selfpublishingwithdale.com/

Poetry
>This Craft of Verse, Borges
>The Poetry Home Repair Manual, Kooser
>Western Wind: An Introduction to Poetry, Mason

Anime Writing (^・o・^)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4on26mKakgs [Embed] [Open] [Open] [Open] [Open]
>https://www.wikihow.com/Create-an-Anime-Story

For advertising
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bQygKqJVFXg [Embed] [Open] [Open]


/wg/ Authors and Flash Fiction Pastebin
>https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQ
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explain him
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How I managed to finally understand Hegel
ScienceofLogic
The final redpill is that contrary to popular belief mathematics is not just applied logic. Indeed mathematics is the way more general discipline, and logic and even philosophy can be formalized and studied via mathematics (which may seem a bit paradox at first since the classical foundation of mathematics is logical). Lawvere said once
>It is my belief that in the next decade and in the next century the technical advances forged by category theorists will be of value to dialectical philosophy, lending precise form with disputable mathematical models to ancient philosophical distinctions such as general vs. particular, objective vs. subjective, being vs. becoming, space vs. quantity, equality vs. difference, quantitative vs. qualitative etc. In turn the explicit attention by mathematicians to such philosophical questions is necessary to achieve the goal of making mathematics (and hence other sciences) more widely learnable and useable. Of course this will require that philosophers learn mathematics and that mathematicians learn philosophy.

My personal advice would be to learn the necessary math in the following order
>basic math (up to highschool tier)
>basic set theory
>linear algebra
>real analysis
>topology
>differential geometry
>algebraic topology
>category theory
>homotopy theory
>higher category theory
>homotopy type theory
Should take about 2-6 years depending on how much you devote to study and how smart you are. Now, you are finally ready to read Hegel
https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/Science+of+Logic
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In order to understand literature, one must know philosophy. In order to understand philosophy, one must know religion and history. In order to understand religion and history, one must know psychology. In order to understand psychology, one must know statistics. In order to understand statistics, one must know mathematics.
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Honest conversation about the DSM
dsm
Aside from some more hardcore mental illnesses (e.g. Schizophrenia, Bipolar Disorder, Anorexia) I find that most criteria for certain mental illnesses are usually very broad and general, allowing not only for a big overlap between the different illnesses themselves but also pose huge conceptual problems. You could pick an ordinary person and probably 1/10 would fit into some criteria.
Now I actually wouldn't argue with the latter statement, but the problem comes when psychiatrists and psychologists assert that these conditions are "chronic" instead of transient conditions that are a product of both genetic and enviromental factors (e.g. OCD, Generalized anxiety)
I'm not anti-DSM, but I do believe that there are way too many conceptual problems with this for me to take it seriously. What's your opinion?
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Deleuze-and-Guattari
hey boi, if you become a body without organs too quickly you immediately reterritorialize into a fascist
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Dmhx1khW0AEpbze
Mom found my jihad collection.
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Bros I need some sci-fi recs
life
I have tried time and time again, with films and games and books and comics and et cetera, but I have never found a piece of science fiction that I have truly enjoyed. The 'big' authors in the business haven't really hooked me. I've found sci-fi is either pulpy kitschy shite or super in-depth worldbuildy type stuff which takes itself way too seriously. I could go on but I'm not in a good enough mood.

Just tell me what the best sci-fi books you've read are. Please and thank you
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What school of thought/philosophy do you follow?
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tell me what book you're reading right now
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Ottoman Literature
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What is it like? Who are the must-read writers in the ottoman canon? Are there any hidden gems?
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is there anything comfier?
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jester
I'm leaning towards doing an MA in English lit, possibly a PhD afterwards. I really don't know what else to do because I'm mostly useless. Grad students and academics of /lit/, is it worth it?
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Thomas Sowell
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Whenever he's brought up I see people shit on him almost immediately. I like some of his stuff but I'm relatively new to non-fiction reading. What should I read to dislike him? So far all I got is his Marxism book isn't that good.
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Is Literature in decline ?
french_writers
I will take french literature as an example because this is the one i know best.

The golden age of french literature was the 19th century with brilliant writers such as Hugo, Balzac, Flaubert and countless others.The 20th century also had great writers like Céline and Camus.
But today I can't name a single great french writer of the 21st century. The closest would be Houellebecq but he is still way behind the talent of his predecessors.

Do you share this feeling anons ? Can you name a genius writer of the 21st century ? Is this a sign of the decline of western cultures ?
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81eAPjAhPBL
I finally found a book with prose I liked. Despite the loads of classics I've read I've never really liked one till now. What are books with prose you really liked?
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europe-population
Do any of you know many European languages? Is it realistic to learn 8-10 languages for reading? I'm interested in Slavic and Romance languages, as well as Greek and German.

I speak Russian, Ukrainian and English. Now I'm learning French and Polish.
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Improving
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Fellow (aspiring) writers,

Other than reading, what has helped you improve your writing the most?

I ask because have started writing short stories. However, I’m stuck at a point where I just do endless re-writes and end up with something very stale and tedious. I feel like my ideas are half decent, but I can’t seem to shape them into something vibrant and crisp.

I think I’m having trouble with structure and finding the essence of my story. I’m not looking to improve my writing style as such, rather I wish to find techniques that help me shape and write the story itself.

Thanks in advance for any help.
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More like this kino?
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Thoughts on the 'social contract' in Plato's Crito
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There is at least some level of contradiction in Socrates’ concept of the ‘social contract’. He claims that every citizen is free to leave the polis, if he disagrees with how the polis functions, including how the laws are constructed. But later Socrates points out that other “well-governed” city states such as Thebes or Magara would look upon an emigrating citizen from Athens as a “enemy to the government” and a “destroyer of the laws”, if it was known he broke a law in Athens (53b). It seems your options are relatively limited if you are discontent with the law; you are not capable of changing the law, if you break a law in any one polis, then you are effectively banished from all poleis, and lastly laws doesn’t really seem to differ much from polis to polis, at least they ought not to in the view of Socrates/Plato.
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Mark 14:51
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What did Mark mean by this?
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What writers have that raw, bombastic style that is optimistic similar to Nietzsche and Henry Miller?
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Alex Rider
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What does /lit/ think of the Alex Rider series?
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Incest in Literature
Incest Diary
First off, I'm curious if anyone has read this book and what they thought of it.

But in general I was hoping to get some thoughts and recommendations on incest in literature. Not necessarily the typical "it was bad, violent trauma" type narratives (I suppose pic related might count but it was more nuanced than that), but any sort of depictions of it, whether it be romantic, idealistic, philosophical analyses, etc.
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Why do Americans do this?
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What are the best books to read to conceive of what human flourishing even is?
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Every book I've read is SHIT
Screenshot (639)
recommend me the absolute BEST.
EVERY word needs to be dripping with artistic creativity,
EVERY sentence must poetically flow like music,
EVERYTHING conveyed must work into itself like clockwork.
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post art, get a book recommendation
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>picrel
What were the consequences?
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>Spend three months reading this
>Meticulously take notes to make sure I'm doing it right
>Reach the end, realize it is a meme book
>Immediately stop reading
How exactly did IJ become a leme (/lit/ meme)?
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Books on urban planning, architecture, interior design, phenomenology of space, etc.
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Im ngl this is really boring bros
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A World Full of Gods
Has anyone here read this book? What did you think about it?
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What’s a good book to understand the techniques of the study of history? Maybe I’m even looking for a college textbook here. I want to know what the methodology is and if possible how it changed with time. How do historians approach and use sources? When does an interpretation of those sources become plausible history?
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/dq/ - Don Quixote Read-Along & Discussion Thread
don_quixote
We're reading Don Quixote from April 23rd to May 24th. ITT we are approaching the end of Part 1 and beginning Part 2 ITT

Schedule:
>April 23rd: Start reading DQ Part I; Chapters 1-4
>April 24th: Chapters 5-8
>April 25th: Chapters 9-12
>April 26th: Chapters 13-16
>April 27th: Chapters 17-20
>April 28th: Chapters 21-24
>April 29th: Chapters 25-27
>April 30th: Chapters 28-32
>May 1st: Chapters 33-36
>May 2nd: Chapters 37-41
>May 3rd: Chapters 42-44
>May 4th: Chapters 45-48
>May 5th: Chapters 49-52; End of the first part of DQ
>May 6th: and on this day the lord rested to give the anons a day to catch up and discuss Part 1.
>May 7th: Start reading DQ Part II; Chapters 1-4
>May 8th: Chapters 4-8
>May 9th: Chapters 9-11
>May 10th: Chapters 12-15
>May 11th: Chapters 16-19
>May 12th: Chapters 20-23
>May 13th: Chapters 24-27
>May 14th: Chapters 28-31
>May 15th: Chapters 32-35
>May 16th: Chapters 36-39
>May 17th: Chapters 40-43
>May 18th: Chapters 44-47
>May 19th: Chapters 48-51
>May 20th: Chapters 52-55
>May 21th: Chapters 56-59
>May 22th: Chapters 60-63
>May 23th: Chapters 64-67
>May 24th: Chapters 68-72; End of the second part

Previous Thread: >>20286738
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What was the point?
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Books that intelligently examine arguments around suicide?
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I’m tired of the brainless knee-jerk nonsense normies spout whenever this topic gets brought up.
What are some books that make some good, emotionless arguments either in favor of or against ending’s one life?
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gettyimages-1134756820
Does G.R.R.M. have a fetish for obesity?

The guy himself is obviously fat, but has this given him some kind of complex? So many characters in his books are morbidly obese in a setting where that seems unlikely, even minor or 1-mention lore characters will get paragraphs of detail about how fat they are. It weirds me out even more than the clear rape fetish.
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This makes me want to quit uni. Anglos won’t get this. What little Latin you learn in your free time is a joke, no offence. American unis dropping Latin and Greek have confirmed them as fully midwit tier.
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15 most important books
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What are the 15 most important books in the Western tradition? No "complete works" allowed, but the Bible counts as one book.
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ITT: English expressions that people actually use, that couldn’t be properly understood with a translator.

I’ll start:
>It is what it is
>If you say so
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Hospice_The_Antlers
What is literature equivalent of Hospice The antlers? Shit made me cry, need a book that give me the same feels
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Future
Best books that predicted the future?
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The critique of pure reason
KANT
So this guy had autism right?

I´m currently 200 pages in and this book is sooooooo boring. The repetition. The overly complex vocabulary. The unnecessary long descriptions of the system. Why was Kant such a shit writer?

Do I even have to read the rest? I´ve learned that time and space are a priori. Space is real but time only exists in relation to the subject. Knowledge is the result of both reason and expreince. Both of these are predicated on a priori structures reason. Reason and experience are synthesized to create other a priori to further interpret experience. We cannot know the thing in itself.
Is there anymore to it or is it just a drawn out explanation for all this?
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Reading Comprehension
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How do you guys train your reading comprehension? Depending on the book it can be difficult to absorb the messages and ideas into my retard brain.
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victoriapainting17
I am looking for some fun fantasy. Colorful, funny, exciting. I don't want deconstructed genre stuff or whatever. And nothing that takes itself too seriously (WOT).
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/lit/ reads Ulysses
james joyce ulysses
/lit/, let's read Ulysses together. A chapter a week starting May 21 2022 at 12:00 am UTC.

Read Ulysses:
https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/4300

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ulysses_(1922)

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Annotated_%22Ulysses%22

https://www.joyceproject.com/

>Listen to a reading of Ulysses:
https://archive.org/details/Ulysses-Audiobook

https://www.rte.ie/culture/2020/0610/1146705-listen-ulysses-james-joyce-podcast/
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Have any anons read this book?
TheDivineAndTheDecay
Currently reading The Divine And The Decay by Bill Hopkins, based on Jonathan Bowden's reccomendation.

Any of you anons read it before and if so what do you think of it?
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ccmc
>While living in the French Quarter in New Orleans, McCarthy was expelled from a $40-a-month room for failing to pay his rent.
>According to DeLisle, the couple lived in "total poverty", bathing in a lake. DeLisle claimed, "Someone would call up and offer him $2,000 to come speak at a university about his books. And he would tell them that everything he had to say was there on the page. So we would eat beans for another week.
>Some have even suggested it is the Great American Novel.[35] Time included it on their 2005 list of the 100 best English-language books published since 1923.[36] At the time, McCarthy was living in a stone cottage behind an El Paso shopping center, which he described as "barely habitable".
How did he do it?
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I am seeing this trend online mostly on booktube and Goodreads that many women hate Holden or even this book saying it's problematic but why? Sure occasionally Holden may be cunt but he is a good person which is shown many times in the novel
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>existence precedes essence
What does this mean exactly? Is existence synonymous with Being in like a Parmenidean sense?
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Great new book
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Pick this one up, recently published. Great expose of Hollywood Jewery.
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LEARN CATEGORY THEORY
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cat theory is better than set theory

set theory works only in classical maths, which is literally american maths for subzero IQ goyims.
Infinities dont exist and AC is a scam, yeah bases of linear spaces are rubbish. DWT. You can't do maths without that? well you're not a mathematician. PERIOD.


And cat theory is pretty boring. TOPOS THEORY IS WHEN IT GETS INTERESTING.

read those books for a starter pack.
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>There was evoked an impressive vision of the rout of hungry men and women
>An impressive vision was evoked of the rout of hungry men and women

What's the name for the style of the first sentence? It's like an inversion of some sort, but I don't have the technical knowledge to name it or describe it. Also, are these inversions ever good in contemporary writing?
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Young adult genre has some kinos and you cant deny it
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/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General
Back To Yharnam
Back To Yharnam Edition

Previous Thread:>>20371865

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/guIyhAzS

>Archive
>>>>>>https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>A link to the ultimate colossal science fiction and fantasy collection torrent
>>>/t/1023504

>Discord
Never going to be created.
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51fyxQwmofL
Were the Time Warp Trio books any good?
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Online writing
20090302
I've been trying to find a group of writers online who aren't, to be frank, terrible to share work with. Unfortunately so far I've been unable to find a place where I can connect with other writers who wish to improve their skills and help others at the same time. Is /lit/ aware of any place for people who are serious about improving their writing?
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Hegel and Transhumanism
wagneredit
Would Hegel be pro-transhumanist?

Following his line of thought where spirit is emptying itself out into the world as subject, would this transhumanist scientific-atheism view simply be the absolute "making itself known to itself"? He would see this stage of the development of consciousness as being relative on the way towards absolute knowing, wouldn't he?
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What does /lit/ think of The Monk by Matthew Lewis?
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can someone explain to me how the fuck russian names work
>reading crime and punishment
>every character has like five different names.
>raskolnikov's sister is named Avdotya but is sometimes also called dunya and dunechka
>raskolnikov is sometimes called rodya and rodka but sometimes also referred to as rodion romanovich
>razumikhin is is named dmitri prokofych, but somewhere in the story someone uses some completely different name for him for a certain context
>Nastasya Petrovna, the maid who brings raskolnikov soup while he lives as a NEET in his room for like half the book, is also referred to as Nastenka and Nastasyushka
HOW DOES THIS WORK? Is this specific to my translation? I already cannot remember half the characters because all their names are some variation of pulkra romitirivich grigorokov. the nicknames make it that much harder. what is the contextual difference between Avdotya, Dunya, and Dunechka? Rodion, Rodya, and Rodka? Is there one? is it random? am i just autistic?
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Price of books
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Is it just me or are books getting more and more expensive these days? Even Wordsworth Classics are not as cheap as they used to be. Is it just me? I know there's a supposed paper shortage worldwide.
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1514185002750s
Post your novel ideas. It's not like they're going anywhere.
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Translation Thread
Dost.-Books-433x360
Let's go through as many important and classic non-English books and discuss which are the best translations for each. Let's start with the Greeks and Dostoevsky.
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Gustave_Flaubert
Who has the best prose in literature and why is it him?
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Shakespeare
Which writers have the best understanding of human psychology?
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newretrowave
Any books like Silent Hill (cults, paranormal, mental illness, parallel dimensions, etc...) ?
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1652790675946
Let's try this again.

Why do authors spell "oh my God" in shorthand, " omigod", it's absolutely infuriating and takes me out of the novel when I read this phrase.
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7 Habits of Highly Effective People
7 habits
How many of you have read or are familiar with this book?

I was given it as a gift and have read through the first part. At first I found the ideas it had encouraging, but there's some questions I keep asking to myself.
What exactly are these principles he keeps talking about? How do you know your living in accordance with them?
Is it really as life changing as he says it is? He doesn't seem to give a whole lot of evidence for their effectiveness. He says he's collated hundreds of years if not thousands of knowledge but it's not clear what his sources are, either.

I like the idea this book sells, and I want to believe it and implement it in my own life, but these questions bug me.

I was thinking, though, and I remembered that the author believed it to be a kind of secularised version of a mormon life ethic. My impression of them then gives evidence to the effectiveness of such principles and habits.
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Can anyone give me advice on reading The Iliad? Just started it
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Yeah, I'm thinking based
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Wagner is the single most important writer on Shakespeare.
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Modern Poetry Thread
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Time for some modern poetry chuds.

Post and review contemporary poems

NO BOOMERS ALLOWED

>Battery Park in Winter
>By Chase Berggrun

Near noon in the city in the park
in the salted air in the cold cringe
cringing two hands glued red
to my cheeks. I give away comfort to get it back.
Oh, look at the sun, I must say to myself
over and over, so that I might look at the sun.

I rent a language guide
to hold my hand
while I sit sneezing
in home’s direction—I am
far away. But I can see
the ocean: not so far.

Nine children on the playground. Ten trees
planted in a row. So nice
to be a swelling sleeper,
thinking at a jogger’s pace. Bees
born from my fingertips
burst toward all the dying life.
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(Nonfiction) Folk Horror
Believe_in_Vampires
I am the writer of two published (but not very commercially successful) narrative nonfiction books.

I am playing with the idea of writing my next nonfiction subject to closely resemble the structure and themes of folk horror.

Does anyone have any suggestions for true events that would fit into what could be considered "nonfiction folk horror"?

I am currently thinking about two subjects (The New England Vampire Panic, The Hex Hallow Murder of Nelson Rehmeyer) but I am looking for more ideas to consider.

Thanks!
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How far could sheriff pepe make it in your fictional version of the wild west?
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frog
Why do we only namedrop books here and never discuss the ideas explored in them and their merits? For example, a lot of people namedrop Houellebecq, yet no one ever discusses the ideas in his books besides vague allusions to muh incels.
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What is the Great American Novel of each state?
Rules:
1. Novel must be about that state.
2. Author must have lived in that state.
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which of Plato's dialogues at the very least should I read before tackling Plotinus (pbuh)
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If causation only exists in the context of experience, can pure categories even be posed? For experience to require conditions he must already assume causation as if conditions cause experience to be possible.
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Say I enjoyed "The Beautiful and Damned" but didn't really like "The Great Gatsby." What Fitzgerald should I read next? Am I likely to enjoy "This Side of Paradise"?
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Would you read it?
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I’m working on the beginning of what might well be a lifetime undertaking: a series of fantasy novels based on Greek mythology covering the entire cycle of it from the beginning of the working until after the Triojan war. I’ve found that as novels the characterization, description and depth necessary, with so many characters and stories, will probably, at the detail I’m going, bring the first novel to conclude at the outset of Titanomachy. The prose style I’m working with is kind of a blend of influence from Anglo-Saxon and Greek poetry for the narrative, and Greek poetry for the dialogue. I’m sinking considerable energy into ironing out the writing to be basically a prose poem and I am planning on hiring an illustrator which is a major investment (the cover alone for a skilled illustrator is about two grand). After I finish I will self-publish be a this is a labor of love and I want total creative control, I don’t know if I can even recover the costs of production but since I’d advertise the volumes here. The main structure of the series will be interlocking Bildungsromanes of the gods woven together by the Greek concept of the cycle of violence and this work extend later on to mortals. In order to devote myself to this I have to almost completely shelve any reading besides Greek literature, history, study of the religion etc and make serious effort to learn the language

All that said I need input if anyone here would read it or would buy it (providing of course you found the prose to your liking). I almost considered leatherbound editions featuring lavish classical but sometimes violent, horror and erotic illustrations but I realized it would be too steep for consumers so I’ll try to limit it to paperback with a few illustrations
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Pepe_russia
>Do bad thing
>realize you did a bad thing
>keep doing bad things
Amazing Russian literature....
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Any literature about a late 20s man turning his life for the better.
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Maybe a book about a NEET or low status man transcending his position in life. I’m done coping through reading isekai manga/manwha and cooming to copious amounts of degenerate pornography. Looking for something better and more relatable than a book like The Count of Monte Christo. Anything good?
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homo-deus
"you are not real, your body and mind are computer algorithms owned by the big corporations and your children are next"
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Bernanos or Huysmans?
I'm not asking this as a who's better but as who should I read next? I've recently been taking advantage of my university's library. I am currently reading the complete works of Nathalie Sarraute. I'm about halfway through, but I'm already thinking ahead to who I should check out next. I am between Georges Bernanos and J.-K. Huysmans. I am a bit hesitant about reading Huysmans because I've heard he writes in a Marseillaise dialect, so I'm not sure if my French would be good enough for that.
I think another similar author to these two would be Maurice Blanchot or Léon Bloy. Any other adjacent recommendations to Bernanos or Huysmans (as well as Nathalie Sarraute [I've already read Robbe-Grillet])?
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Philo of Alexandria
PhiloThevet
Where to start with him, considering I have a background in Plato and Plotinus?
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Poem of the Day (May 16)
Astrophil and Stella 31
What are your thoughts on this poem, /lit/?

Astrophil and Stella 31: With how sad steps, O Moon by Sir Philip Sidney

Yesterday's poem >>20371627
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GetResource
generational genius or just throw anything and see what it sticks?
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Books about recognizing birds
Books about recognizing birds from how they fly? Their wing shape, etc
I want to go hunting with my old man but he won't allow me until I learn how to recognize birds.
Any suggestion? The more detailed the better.
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benedictine_monk
>while I was still searching but not finding— I found one upright man among a thousand, but not one upright woman among them all.
THE WORD OF GOD. AMEN.
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Favorite book title?
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skimming isnt reading
flicking your eyes from one side of the page to the other isnt reading

If you sped read through a book you didnt actually read it.

Expert readers take their time in a technique called deep reading. They read slowly and retain more information in the process. I am at on average a page per day because the pages are full of text and the sentences are confusing. "What does that mean," I constantly ask myself, as you should ask yourself because you are interacting with the book. You should also not be afraid to reread words, and sentences again and again
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Yellow Lies, Golden Truths
AlexanderMoritzFrey
Even Alexander Moritz Frey, a medic who disliked Apollo, and later became a science-fiction writer ((and fled Germany after Apollo came to power)) nonedheless wrote ov Apollo
QUOTE WHEN PEOPLE CLAIM DHAT HE HAD BEEN A COWARD, DHAT/S NOT TRUE UNQUOTE
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R(80)
Is Crito the biggest turd Plato ever wrote?
>bro the majority's opinion doesn't matter
>but follow the law (set by the majority opinion in our Athenian democracy
Literal bs
On top of this of course ignores the idea of being governed by an imperfect and corrupt state in which things cannot be adjusted by the law
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you motherfuckers tricked me again
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What ancient Greek myth is most relevant to the modern human condition?
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JOSEPH MCELROY tell me your thoughts about him
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He is literally me. Post literary characters who are literally you.
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I'm ESL and this guy's prose is filtering me. Half the time he is perfectly intelligible, then, seemingly for no reason, he chimps out and I don't know what the fuck he's saying any longer.
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michel_houellebecq
Why aren't you reading the most important living author of this generation, /lit/?
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maverick
If you were a hitchens brother who would you be? I think I'd be the hated peter. Intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humour.
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voll
I want to start over anew, any books that are about something similar?
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what would he read?
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When does this get better?
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Howard Roark laughed
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Am I the only one that thinks novels should have a page near the back that lists all the main characters and a brief synopsis so that i am not constantly flipping through pages to figure out who someone is?
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confess
vwnjzuaf34a31
I use text-to-speech when I get tired of reading (if there's no audiobook available). Even then, if I read along with the word selection it honestly memes me past the point where my mind starts to go on tangents, really kinda helpful desu.
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One thing these books really nail, and the movies never truly manage to capture, is the talking scenes that happen in the aftermath of a dramatic moment. Think of when Gandalf and Frodo are in Bag End talking about the Ring, or when Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, Merry, and Pippin are all chatting in the ruins of Isengard. Or when Gandalf, Aragorn, Eomer, and Imrahil talk in Minas Tirith about what to do going forward. Or the multiple scenes between Gandalf and Denethor.

These books are really good at making people talking to each other about things feel really engaging. There's a sense of camaraderie and a mingling of personalities that you don't get from a lot of other books. The Jackson movies don't really capture this, how engaging it is to just read about Tolkien's characters sitting and talking to each other.
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The Book of The New Sun
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Hey hey people, first time posting here, I'm a Yoshitaka Amano fanboy and found out that this (pic related) is the cover art for The Book of The New Sun, researched a little bit and people say it's cool but difficult, so, what say you? Is it worth the difficult reading?
(English is not my first language)
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Boomir
>23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
I don't get it. Shouldn't it be are? The wages of sin ARE death, or Is this some hidden nuance?
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I keep trying to get into this, but the story really isn't grabbing me.

It just reads like a movie script..am I missing something? Does it get better?

I'm at the part where Dante escaped prison and found the treasure.
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books to understand fascist and lefties core beliefs
It's_All_So_Tiresome
ok, not trying to make a pol thread, but I just want to see if there's a few books, I mean I don't want to read an entire bibliography on both political systems, but simply like 2 books at best that summarize both what the political extremes in America core beliefs are?

I guess I could look up some introductory book to fascism and another to communism, but I would love to see if /lit/ can recommend me some basic non encyclopedic more like layman books that explains both what pol and the lefty version of pol has at their core beliefs.
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What are some books/essays that explore the concept of propaganda as a psychological phenomenon, rather than a sociological one? I'm looking for something like Ponsonby's "Falsehood in Wartime," but with greater emphasis on how the individual interacts with propaganda and less on how it fits into an authority's wider objectives.

Any recommendations?
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>There you go anon, your translation of War and Peace
>Translate the 50 pages of French too? What are you, a fucking pleb? hon hon hon

why
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What parts of this should I disregard
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Just started this yesterday after picking it randomly off the top 100 list, what am i in for?
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I think I just came across one of the most decisive refutations of Evola's thought with respect to Christianity. I'll post the full thing if people are interested, I'll post the first page in the OP for now.
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Independent_People
Cuck: the novel
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Villaofthepapyri
any chance we will be able to read Aristotle's dialogues in our lifetime?
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Bible thread VIII
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My new suggestion for a regular bible general - soli deo gloria

Bible threads are a non-denominational general on /lit/ dedicated to the study and discussion of the Bible specifically and Christianity more broadly. While some level of inter-denominational bullying is expected, we do try to keep things generally focused on sharing the teachings of Christ, rather then attacking each other. Questions from people new to Christianity and/or Bible study are very much encouraged, no matter how basic. Fedora-Trolls are common in these threads and the best way to deal with them is to just report and ignore, rather then responding to them.

Read the Bible online: https://www.biblegateway.com/
Read (non-Gnostic) apocrypha online: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/apocrypha.html
Read Gnostic apocrypha online: http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlcodex.html

Bible translations commonly discussed in these threads:
KJV - King James Version - The Classic Bible from 1611, still in common use today.
NKJV - New King James Version - A well received conservative update to the KJV from 1982.
ESV - English Standard Version - Very popular translation and basis for one of the best Study Bibles.
NASB1995 - the most literal bible still in publication. don't get the 2020 update
NABRE - New American Bible Revised Edition - Popular (progressive) Catholic Bible.
NIV - New International Version - One of the most popular translations but also considered progressive.

last thread >>20344384

remember to always present a reason for your faith WITH GENTLENESS
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