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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

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Recommended Literature
https://lit.trainroll.xyz/wiki/Recommended_Reading
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Sex-Ed Books
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What are the best books to read on Sex-Ed, about Sex-Ed, or what you should read if you've never had Sex-Ed? And also the importance of paternity tests, romance, cuddling, and relationships? And sex. Yes, I know what I said.
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>want to write
>have no ideas
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Can you explain in a non-sexist way why women usually don't read philosophy?
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/grrm/ - George R. R. Martin General #58
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a toast! edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

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How did reading philosophy change your life, if at all?
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>Got into writing
>Can't actually write about anything because everything that I want to write would require a visual medium more than literary one
>Can't change POVs

Writing fucking sucks. I wish I got into drawing instead. Now, I don't know what to do.
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great writer, but kind of pedantic
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Stack thread
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Post your stacks

For those unsure, a stack can be whatever you want it to be: books you’ve recently gotten, books you’ve recently read, books you like, books you want to reread, and so on

This pic is a bunch of my favorite books thrown together
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Why is this the best philosophical system for westerners
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Stoicism is a realistic approach to living life. So much so that it inspired various schools and methods of modern psychotherapy like CBT and ERP
Ancient Greek and roman philosophy was ment to solve practical life problems and not to meander on useless metaphysical concepts.
There are vastly superior to anything offered by abrahamic religions that preach mind slavery and the death of your critical thinking abilities.
Also getting cucked isn't that big of a deal unless you're a chud who's never been with a woman. Anybody who's been in post nut clarity before realizes that women are overrated and that love is a meme.
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Moonquill, has my sample chapter I sent in... up on their "new release" page.
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They said it would take about a month, to get back on the sample chapter. I just went there, and was unexpectedly taken to my "dashboard". I backed out, to go to the main site, and... there it was. I instantly recognized my dogshit temporary "cover image".
New release. Shitty cover right there. You can read it for free, E-book, that is to say, my test chapter. Kind of floored me. I... pcked off an email to them, and attached my more professional cover. Hope they can put that on it, instead. Moreover, I offered that since they have it up? Did they want the rest of the fucking book now. I have no idea, maybe that's how they, I don;t even know how this works.
ANYWAYS, if any of you fellow \lit\ autists, would like to see a sample chapter of my work? You know, see if I can write at all or not. Chapter 05, is up in all its glory, or lack thereof.
Oh, and by the way. Unless and until... they put my professional cover on it I just sent them? As of right this second... the "cover" is...
well... PIC RELATED and good for a kek.
NOW then. I take a number of comments with a smile here. "If you write like you post? Its incomprehensible shit!"
Might well be so. But, you can go and read for yourself, how I am at writing fiction. I don;t know. Reads lik a chapter out of a fiction novel, to me. But? I could be biased.
Oh yeah. Link.
https://moonquillnovels.com/book/thief-of-souls
(I can;t believe, they posted up under new releases? The right ring death squad patch cover. KEK)
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/wg/ Writing General
Worst poetry ever
"Bad Poetry" edition

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/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQ
RESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvC

Please limit excerpts to one post.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.
If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.
Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.
(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)

Simple guides on writing:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdzv1NfZRM
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whPnobbck9s
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAKcbvioxFk

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icXQxumuHAE
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What novel has the most 'woman' moments?
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Culture Scifi Series
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I fell for the meme as these books have been brought up a lot recently and the premise of a post scarcity society seems interesting.

I enjoyed the first book, and am almost finished with the second, but there has been a concerning trend, which I would like to ask you all about:

It seems like as the pages go on, he's getting more political and preachy. I also noticed that Reddit/booktubers seem to like his books more and more in direct proportion to this.

The post scarcity setting is compelling, the woke Neo-Con Trotskyite Whiggish "bro we'll just invade the middle east and turn them into feminists who can code - just like Japan+Korea!" politics of the period (discredited post Iraq and Afghanistan, also boring) is not. I don't mind the lgbt/trans stuff or that its vaguely marxist thing, it's pre irl culture war so its not super in your face like it would be if it were written today. But the Jeee dubahyew white knight imperialist ethos being endlessly repeated is getting on my nerves.

Does it get more and more like this, or no?
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Whats your opinion on "The Stand"?
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Independent Nichiren Buddhism
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I have been extensively studying the various nichiren schools...SGI is a cult\ponzi scheme, Shu is a pseudo-Shintoist cult, they and shoshu helped japanese WW2 imperialism, warmongering, conquests. shoshu IS shu btw, they changed their name only some decades ago.
the dai-gohonzon itself may be fake, nam is actually namU, it even seems you DON'T need to do Gongyo (recite Lotus Sutra chapters), specifically and only NMRK is more than enough.
I don't want to become a schizo "home aloner"\DIY religious guy...but i genuine think independent Nichiren Buddhism is ,most likely, the ultimate of redpills.
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Post erotica with good prose
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What are some works of Literature to understand why Britain caved to Immigration.
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You know nothing...
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But it's cool when Vladimir Nabokov does it?
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umberto eco thread
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which one is better? which one should I read first?
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Fanfiction
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Okay so is fanfiction /lit/ or not. Does writing it make you a fraud or is it a legitimate way to express yourself creatively
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Chinese Fantasy
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Have you read Wuxia/Xianxia/Xuanhuan? What is your impression and do you think it will enter mainstream?
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Best translation?
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>"Anyone who reads this basically becomes a supervillain dude, it's truly, utterly horrid and immoral. It's literally banned by the federal prison system, that's how fucked up and evil this book is."
>it's actually just a bunch of gay historical anecdotes on seduction and stories about 16th century polticians being petty faggots
I want my fucking $20 back.
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Books about shy, timid middle-aged bachelors with no friends please
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what books does he read?
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Why did I wait so long, this shit is genuinely hilarious.

Just fucking lost it when Sancho is telling the story of the goatherd ferrying 300 goats across a river and insists on telling him about each goat at a time and keeping count
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Why not reject the modern world like him?
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Is there any sort of litmus test in literature?
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Let me explain what I mean: pic related is one of Paganini's caprices for violin. Any violinist you met, if they could play this well, they'd be 99% guaranteed to be at least competent on their instrument and not crap out playing twinkle twinkle little star for instance. Same for any pianist who could play Rachmaninoff, and I'm sure the same extends to physical athletes in their fields.

Does literature work this way, is there any book or literary exercise where you can infer baseline qualities about someone based on what they've read or written? I'm not talking about character judgements, I'm addressing levels of ability. For instance, the person who was dedicated enough to practice Paganini all day is very unlikely to be attention deficit and chase cheap dopamine rushes all day in other aspects of their life. But we know not every discipline works this way, tech companies are famous for seeking those autists that are hypercompetent at it almost to the exclusion of everything else. Is literature similar?

Thanks.
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Conan vs Gor?
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Which one to read first? Which one is better?
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What's your rating system for the books you read? I go by a 1-5 scale, if a book I'm reading seems below a 3.5/5 in quality in the first 30 or so pages I tend to drop it.
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Hello there /lit/! I have started reading seriously this year, because I don't have much else to do. These are the books I read, ranked from best to worst:
The Great Gatsby
Wuthering Heights
Catcher in the Rye
Dune (and Messiah)
Fahrenheit 451
Of Mice and Men
Lord of the Rings (and the Hobbit)
To Kill a Mockingbird
1984
The Giver
Animal Farm

Do you guys have any recs for what I should read next?
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Cinema
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I read through his Cinema books and, while they're an adventure, I just don't know what to think. I understand he's using cinema to talk about grander aspects, but the way he sets up certain arguments around cinema don't exactly hold up. Mainly, this is due to Deleuze not being well-versed in cinema, though he is obviously a fan.

There may be some things to take away from this, but I'm still uncertain about this whole project.

Another reason is film theorist David Bordwell, without explicitly naming Deleuze (in the beginning of his argument, at least), takes to task certain theorists and critics by showing what they focused on (Deep Focus, Montage, etc.) are not the groundbreaking concepts they thought they once were. Instead, they're an accumulation of concepts - some already mastered in films years/decades before their chosen examples.

I understand there are critics of Bordwell, but at least he's attempting an evidence-based approach with years of study and visual proof.

Anyone have thoughts about all of this?
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Thoughts on Omar Khayyam
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This guy's quatrain poems are really good. I'm not a big fan of poetry but his Rubaiyat helped me appreciate its value. Any other cool poets like him?
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Writers that explore similar ideas to Houellebecq about the sexual marketplace?

Recently finished reading Extension du domaine de la lutte and The Elementary Particles, got me in a real blackpilled mood
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/lit/, imagine i'm a broke fag ("imagine" wink wink) and i want to write a short children's book/graphic book, as a small income source. i also thought about making videos to go with the story (that the child can watch online). is this a good idea to make a small income doing sth else i don't totally hate, or is it not good and do you have smarter ideas to enhance upon it?
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What kind of person reads writers like Artaud, Bataille, Sade and Genet?
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this book is a life changer. i have become less judgmental and more understanding of why humans do what they do.
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What should I grab, /v/?
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Hoppe-Democracy
what am I in for? im a few pages in
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Thought on Maximalist literature?
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I wrote a story
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Waste thirty minutes of your day. Tell me why it's bad
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>Hegel was actually right wing!
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Books that feel like this dish?
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/tradCath/ general
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>Third Sunday of Lent edition
Welcome to Traditional Catholic General. Post favourite Catholic works, thoughts on doctrine, or anything tied to the one true Church, her philosophy, or her history.

Favourite saint's biography or Catholic-themed work? Let’s hear it.

Struggling with a theological question? Share your thoughts, and maybe some high IQ anon can answer (or at least has a relevant papal encyclical to drop).

Latin Mass enthusiasm, pre-Vatican II liturgical gems, or reflections on the one true Church of Catholic spirituality? Bring it here.

Liturgical Resources
>https://extraordinaryform.org/
>"The Hours of the Divine Office in English and Latin" (a.k.a. the breviary) from 1961; this can be found either on archive.org >>24234823 or on annas archive

Remember: this is not fedora bloodsports general. Nor is it the place for tired heresies like universalism.

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/history/
the five families
Post history books, ask for recommendations, discuss what you've been reading.

I'm looking for either individual books focusing on each of the 5 NYC crime families or a real thick book that covers all of them.

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"The Night Land" (by Hodgson)
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Have you ever read "The Night Land" (by Hodgson). I've heard this book is comically shitty and verbose, but that the worldbuilding and parts of the story are worth it.

Would you recommend reading a particular re-write of it?
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I just purchased Plato's collected works
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>What's the point anymore? No one will read it and AI can write it better
How to overcome this despair?
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Why does /lit/ hate atheism?
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Let’s be honest: you don’t like her because you’re lazy. Nobody is impressed that you’re a bohemian heroin addict. You’ll probably OD in a pile of filth apartment your parents pay for.
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how do i become a well-read guy like hannibal lecter
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how do i become a highly cultured polyglot who quotes Latin, Greek, and Renaissance texts? how do i acquire a deep knowledge of art, music, and classical philosophy which reflects an extensive classical education? how can i spontaneously come up with classical references and allusions & impress all the girls and get their panties drenched by my vast erudition? how do i do all this and more?
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Why is it "fewer emissions"? I think this sounds very stupid. It should be "less emissions". This goes not just for "emissions", but many other similar words, can't think of any examples right now.

Maybe I'm affected by Swedish. In Swedish we say "mindre utsläpp", literally "less emissions", we don't say "färre utsläpp" which is "fewer emissions". To me "fewer emissions" sounds like the number of compounds being emitted is lower, not the amount of emissions.

English only has one word for "more emissions", while Swedish has two, reflecting the meaning of "fewer" vs "less": "fler" vs "mer". Maybe English is just a poor and dumb language. Fewer emissions, fucking baby talk.
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What political ideology is "The Republic"?

I've heard people call it fascist, is that accurate?
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After reading these two novels I can safely claim that Don Quixote a is far superior work to Stoner.
While they both attempt something similar with
>novel
>autistic protagonist
>obsessed with Medieval literature
>unconventional relationship with woman
>well meaning less intelligent best friend
>perception not matching reality
>antagonists seething at just the existence of the hero
Don Quixote emerges on top. Stoner barely even comes close.
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Siddhartha: Psychedelics and Interconnectedness
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Has anyone here read Siddhartha and truly understood the feeling of being interconnected with everything? I felt like it was hard for me to grasp in that either you have to be Gautama himself or you have to use psychedelics to see what he's talking about. I have heard from others experiences in psychedelics that they have felt what Siddhartha felt when he was talking about "oneness". I don't understand "oneness" and "Om" and I still think about it ever since I have read it. Can anybody explain it or tell of how they have achieved it and how it feels? Well actually--I do recall that Siddhartha said that wisdom cannot be learned through others teachings but instead has to be lived through experiences so maybe I have to just find it on my own.
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>have sex
That ruined it for me. I don't remember the end cause the prota pump and dump the milf four times after his gfs death.
Nips can't into love. Thay only love with their penisus.
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Will this book convert me?
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The Basics are the Best
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>Plato
>Shakespeare
>Greek drama
>Wordsworth
>Montaigne
>Bible
>the Russian novelists
After reading hundreds of books over the years, of all levels of obscurity and quirkiness, from east and west, including novels, plays, philosophy, and poetry, I have come to the conclusion that the basics really are the best, twentieth century literature generally sucks, and philosophy after Plato is mostly a scam.
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This book unironically changed my life. Ayn Rand thread?
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ITT: books w*men hate
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I hate nice girls.
If they so much as say hello, it stays on my mind.
If they return texts, my heart races.
The day one calls me, I know I'll look at my call history and grin.
But that's just them being nice.
People who are nice to me are also nice to everyone else.
I almost end up forgetting that.
If the truth is cruel,
Then lies must be kind.
That's why kindness is a lie.
I gave up on always expecting it,
always mistaking it,
and even hoping for it.
Someone who's' worked so hard at being alone doesn't fall for the same trick twice.
I'm a veteran at this.
I’m the best when it comes to losing.
That's why I'll always hate nice girls.
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>yfw you realize Evola's "heroic" path is literally CHIM
>Guenon zero summed as a Sufi in Egypt like the Dwemer
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How do we make /lit/ great again and get rid of the donkeys posting Ayn Rand and Mein Kampf over and over again?
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Guess my profession (I'm unemployed)
Only incorrect guesses.
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It's that time of the day
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Memes aside, is Schopenhauer the most directly influential thinker of the 19th century?

He directly influenced Einstein, Pauli, Schoredinger, Wagner and Porkofiev.
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/lit/ Book Club
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This thread is to continue getting votes on the poll that Kurda Anon put up after we finished the Demonata. As the last thread fizzled out, all of the options were tied at a standstill. The 3 choices currently are:

>The Sister Verse (YA Novels)
> Les Miserables (Manga)
>"Why not both?"

Anyone and everyone can participate. After awhile, we'll either go with the winner if it's decisive or potentially read something smaller for the moment and compile other options for another poll.
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reading shakespeare an act a day
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hello /lit/izens. im inviting you to join me on my journey to read all of shakespeares plays. i will be reading the plays i
order of my copy of the complete works, one act per day.
today is day 1, and i am starting with reading the first part of king henry the sixth.
please feel free to read along, i will be sharing my thoughts and takeaways in this thread once i have done my reading for the day.
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I can't take women seriously anymore after reading this book (recommended to me by one of my female friends). How the fuck is this shit so popular? It's fucking disgusting.
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/wbg/ Worldbuilding General
Cthulhu towering over cultists
Cosmic Horrors, Eldritch Monsters, and Lovecraftian Madness Edition

Welcome to /Wbg/, the official thread for the discussion and development of fictional worlds and settings.
Here is where you can share the details of your created worlds such as lore, factions, magic systems, ecosystems and more. You can also post maps for your settings, as well as any relevant art, either created by you or used as inspiration for your work. Please remember that dialogue is what keeps the thread alive, so don't be afraid of giving someone feedback!

FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.

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According to Freud, why do we wanna fuck our mothers?
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On the impossibility of ''inter-faith'' dialogue
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How did all the scholars of comparative religion and authors who have been championing the exchange of ideas between all 'developed' religious traditions and hastily making grand conclusions based on their research (such as the perennialists) reconcile with the fact that most of the advanced literature is seemingly inaccessible not only due to the language barrier, but also due to its immense density both in length and linguistic/conceptual complexity? Kind of a basic question, but it's been bugging my spirit for a while, and haven't found a properly formulated convincing argument so far. How is, say, a scholar on Suhrawardi supposed to test the veracity of his system against a pracitioner of Vajrayana, when the prerequisites entail a lineage of thousands of incredibly dense manuscripts? Is reliance on intuition the only way out of these types of predicaments? I know that, previous to this liberal age, there have been attempts to create a climate for interreligious debates in royal courts, such as Mughal Akbar's, but the grounds on which the dialogues are built get easily corrupted with ulterior political motives and biases and racial ties and all that merry business. Not to subscribe too strongly to historical materialism, but it does point toward a logical direction. Which brings us to the current climate of interreligious millieux, which are typically funded and supported by descendants of the elite bloodlines and fraterneties that have paved the way for the post-modern neo-liberal globalist society that we now live in to subsist. Not to mention opening the doors for the systematically weak and sometimes downright pathetic cultish and syncretic crazes that have been dominating the pseudo-esoteric spaces for a couple of centuries now. You get to a point where you keep on asking series of Whys in order to track down all the divergences, and you're left with no answers whatsoever.
What do? Capitulate?
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please tell me what you think about my shitty short story
pretty much a detective/mystery story
wrote it for a contest in my uni, originally in spanish so bear with the translation
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good read but I still don't fully understand the digression into UFOs. Was it just another example of how the government has its hands in everything with the disinformation spreading? I know Colbern is a big UFO guy now but again I'm not seeing how it connects

Also, general (non fiction) conspiracy lit thread. Pic related was a great companion to CHAOS but I'm not sure what to read next. I'd go for Programmed to Kill but I've heard it's mostly crackpot bullshit
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Ummm.... Yikes. This was really problematic.
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What the fuck did I just read. Have anyone else read it?
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What books does he read?
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Well, I pulled the trigger, as a writer
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PIC RELATED
(yes, I know its shit. Just needed "something" or you cant send in the sample chapter)

Title says it all.
Pulled the trigger
its impossible to get friends in real life to read your book
Fuck it. I discovered something called "moonquill"
I'm not planning on going with them?
but, free to send them a chapter one.
I'm a devious bastard.
I "titled" chapter one?
as chapter 5, LMAO
because, that was the one I picked out, as it seemed...
1) most "commercial" reading chapter, I thought.
2) commercial, as in... reads exactly like other books I've read
3) while the in-your-face female lawyer is the "hero" in THAT chapter? She's not the protagonist, the client is.
4) figured, the whole "preference" for females these days? someone test reading, will see the lady lawyer taking up the whole chapter. You know, see a "strong capable waymen" and give it a look on that note.

mainly, I'm just intrested in having someone "profesional" look at something I wrote
see if I get any response.
as in, if I get any interest?
I just needed the litmus test.
the upside, was it forced me to take out my one illustration.
so my text can be judged for my writing ability (or lack thereof)
I... just need to know.
yes, I not only selected that "female led" chapter, for obvious business decision there, to try to get through the cracks in the door
and yes, my "sample cover", while shit?
*shrugs*
female pen name
that way, they know they dont have to be "embarrassed" by a "male writer".
*big sigh*
fingers crossed.
I mean, we've all seen shit in print and download?
utter crap.
I only have to be better, then the worst they ever accepted and ran with.
but... the idea of finally testing to see?
have me both biting my nails, waiting for 30 days, and...
also feeling like I finally tried.
if I can just get far enough, that they want my PDF of the entire book the sample chapter came from?
I figure even if they dont like the whole book... it could maybe let them see that I proof end edit my own stuff,
so maybe I can try to be some kind of half-ass editor somewhere, working fro home
christ, I'm a poorfag
having real job of any kind, would be something at least.

TL;DR --- fingers crossed
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What books should I read if I want to become a great writer?
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>Foreword by
>Introduction by
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This book is awesome. And one of the main characters is a Chad.
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I legitimately fucking love Mark. There are times I think it's my favorite Gospel. I love how fast things move, how immediate things are, how sharp and hard Jesus and other characters are in it. It really feels like reading this Gospel that Jesus has no time to waste, that His cause is urgent and things need to happen NOW. It's really cool, and you don't get it in the other three Gospels.
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This is my current reading list. What am I in for /lit/?

The Civilisation of the Renaissance in Italy - Burckhardt
The Devil's Chessboard - David Talbot
Henry VIII - Alison Weir
1491: New Revelations of the Americas - Charles C. Mann
Claudius The God/I, Claudius - Robert Graves
1066: The Year of Conquest - David Howarth
Congo: The Epic History of a People - David Van Reybrouck
Reflections on the Revolution in France - Edmund Burke
Truffaut/Hitchcock - Francois Truffaut
Here, There and Everywhere - Geoff Emerick
With Hitler to the End - Heinz Linge
Survival in the Killing Fields - Roger Warner
Democracy: The God That Failed - Hans-Hermann Hoppe
I, Me, Mine - George Harrison
JFK and the Unspeakable - James W. Douglass
Meditations - Marcus Aurelius
My Life In Film - Ingmar Bergman
The Franklin Scandal - Nick Bryant
The History of the Ancient World - Susan Bauer
A Short History of Nearly Everything - Bill Bryson
Based on a True Story - Norm Macdonald
Robespierre: A Revolutionary Life - Peter McPhee
The Year 1000 - Robert Lacey
A History of Central Banking - Stephen Mitford Goodson
Inside The 3rd Reich - Albert Speer
The Twelve Caesars - Suetonius
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Heinlein wrote these within two years of each other. What happened to him?
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Character Models.
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as a writer? I once had trouble. Some characters were cardboard stereotype cutouts. I lacked effective dialog banter. The solution? I learned about character models.
Example. Two cops bantering, at a crime scene. It didn't work, at all. Solution? Character model to the rescue. These two cops, need some back and forth. But, I can easily imagine these two middle aged guys I know from the coffee crowd I frequent. I can easily imagine their conversation. These two, are an odd couple. I now can describe my two "cops", and they're unique. Their banter dialog? Very real and believable. AN interesting waitress I know over time? Same thing, she can be the model for the secretary, a minor character that pops up several times. Even the hero? Gets his dose of reality injected this way.
Anyone have anything to add?
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How do you understand continental philosophy when you encounter sentences like this:
>Here, in the where of nowhere, and nowhere else than this "where" without elsewhere, the spirit emerges, infinite concentration in itself, the breath or wind that alone fills up holes.
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Have you read the greatest diarist of all time?
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We all know reading is better than listening when it comes to books, but what about for mediums intended for listening? Would reading a screenplay/transcription be better than watching a movie/podcast?
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Infinite Jest.
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How would Wyatt Gwyon react to AI art? Sometimes I wish Gaddis was alive so he could write The Recognitions 2.0 for the modern era.
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Was it necessary to give the Sonny character a large penis, and then describe it in detail? Seems a little sus, ngl. Good book though
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>start reading Schopenhauer a few years ago
>"Holy fuck he is so right life is so depressing and full of suffering we should just stop procreating and detach ourselves from external desires"
>out of nowhere meet someone from a poor family in a poor country, has barely any money, has a child to look after alone, but is ambitious, enthusiastic, positive, adventurous and hates the idea of being treated with pity or feeling sorry for oneself
>genuinely reminds me of Nietzsche to the point where she and I are almost opposites in many respects but still connected somehow

Has anybody experienced something like this?

It's a niche feeling but one I find very strange. I was extremely depressed when I met her, and although I still am her influence and positivity pretty much inspired me to get my life together in a lot of ways. That may sound pathetic, but it's true. We of course bumped heads a lot of times because our contrasting personalities, but she really forced me to question my rather naive worldview which tended to lead me to believe that most people are dejected, deprived and suffering rather than, as in her case, embracing life for all it is worth.
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He is literally me
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He was based and much closer to a /pol/fag than a leftist.
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Books about doing mkultra on midwits?
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Is there any conceivable way the Underground Man could've gotten out of his cycle of self-destructive behaviour, or was it hopeless? What practical steps could he have taken? Asking for a friend.
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I’ve been digging into Buddhism lately and I find it really interesting and deserving of more attention than what most people give it or even white spiritual girls do. But I still do have a few hang ups due to my abrahamic past.

Like for one the diversity. One thing I didn't like about christianity was all of the different denominations which made it all so confusing but in buddism you have different schools, like Theravada, Mahayana, and Vajrayana. They don’t always seem to vibe on the same wavelength. You’ve got this core idea of no-self being a big deal, but then some branches start talking about stuff like eternal consciousness, which kinda feels like it’s pulling in a different direction. How do Buddhists reconcile that?

Another thing that’s been nagging at me is how Buddhism seems so focused on fixing yourself rather than the world around you. It’s all about personal liberation, which is cool and all, but it doesn’t feel like it’s got a strong playbook for tackling big societal problems like injustice or corruption. How do they explain that inward focus when there’s so much out there that needs fixing is it just about getting your own head right first, or what? And when it comes to the big cosmic questions like where the universe came from or why it even exists Buddhism doesn’t seem to have a lot to say. It’s great at breaking down suffering and giving you a path to peace, but if you’re looking for answers about the grand scheme of things, it kinda leaves you hanging. How do Buddhists handle folks who are itching for those kinds of explanations do they just sidestep it entirely?

Lastly, I can see how Buddhism’s super introspective approach works for some folks, especially with all the meditation and self-reliance stuff. But for people who crave a more personal connection like a god to pray to or a tighter community to lean on, it might not hit the spot. How do Buddhists respond to those who just don’t feel that spark with it is it a “take it or leave it” kinda deal? It kinda feels like Buddism is just a religion about personal development that doesn't have a wider application. Kinda like Nietszche's philosophy which is only applicable to you personally but not soemthing for a society to live by. Like, have you ever even heard of a good buddhist society? Most of them are terrible like in Sri Lanka or Myanmar who have ethnic tensions or violence.
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Is this the greatest loss of potential in literature history
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>read
>read
>read
>die
>everything gone
what's the point
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What are the best greentext stories ever written?

Do you think greentext has potential as a literary form?

This isn't a troll thread so please don't ban me, just delete the thread if it's off-topic.
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what are the best books for learning rhetoric?
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Is the story of the Garden of Eden a metaphor for occult initiation, or simply a metaphor for adolescence/loss of innocence? Or is it a metaphor for enlightenment?
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Call me Osamu Dazai, cause I'm shochuing all night.
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what am in in for sci-fi bros?
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I want to read biographical books about a person who committed some evil things in their life, but repented and became a better person. Fiction is okay too I guess. pls give recs
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Does continental philosophy hold any value?
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I want to be sophisticated like /lit/ and to write stuff. I want it to be my hobby, but I don't know how to start. I always feel like I have a lot to say, but when it comes to writing it down, my mind goes blank. I think partially because I feel pretentious when I sit down to write something. I'm like "what are you complaining about" even though I'm pretty sure like everyone else I have my fair share of things to complain about, if that's what I wanted to write about. I don't know how to describe this, I feel like a little emo bitch whenever I try to write something (I swear I'm serious)
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This is one of those books where you get exhausted reading and can't wait to finish it. Terrible book. At least it's short.
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High on Fire - Devolution
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just marathoned this. what did I think of it? ignoring the three page israel shilling in the middle of course.
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>Ivan Goncharov
>Philip Larkin
>Fernando Pessoa
>Chekhov
>JK Huysmans
>Jane Austen
>Flannery O'Connor
>Walt Whitman
>Emily Dickinson
>the Brontes
>Franz Kafka
>Louisa May Alcott
>John Keats
>Henry James

Why do so many writers never marry?

Even many of those who do or did get married had very short-lived relationship, e.g., Lovecraft.
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I tip the cigarette ashes into the urn of my future

The ashes rise to the top and spill over and I light another

Piously puffing the sacred leaf of the native tribes

I am lifted into the air with its smoke, rising vaporous and swirling

Yellow fingers packing papers full of moist and fibrous brown

Tar fills the wingspan of my lungs and nicotine's sweet release is diffused throughout my body

No thoughts of quitting
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Plato is by far a better writer than Aristotle. Do not believe the faggots who say you should start reading philosophy with Aristotle. Plato is a cooler writer who expressed his ideas through dialogues and fiction, which is a very smart way to communicate them. His dialogues are full of jokes and brilliant irony that really make you laugh. When I started reading Aristotle, philosophy was no longer fun and exciting, it just became technical and difficult
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What's the modern equivalent of a Restoration comedy?
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Here's Wycherley's The Country Wife (1673):

The prologue invited the audience, if it disliked the play, to enter the dressing room of the actors at the close, where

>We patiently . . . give up to you
>Our poets, virgins, nay, our mistresses too.

Mr. Pinchwife has brought his spouse to London for a week, and guards her so thoroughly that she is seduced under his nose. A Mr. Horner, returning from France and desiring unhindered access to wives, spreads the rumor that he is a eunuch. Pinchwife concludes that to such an incompetent he may safely open his home. Soon he finds his wife writing a love letter to the maimed gallant. He forces her to write another, which calls Horner the vilest names; while his back is turned she substitutes her first letter for the angry one; the husband, proud in domination, delivers the original missive to Horner. Later, suspecting that Horner is an abler man than rumor described him, he thinks to keep him occupied by agreeing to take his sister Alithea to him. The wife disguises herself as Alithea, and is delivered by her husband to her paramour. The play ends with a “Dance of the Cuckolds,” Horner has the last triumphant word, and an epilogue, spoken by an actress, chides the men in the audience for insucient virility:

>And men may still believe you vigorous,
>But then we women—there’s no cozening us.
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What is the best English Fichte translation? Picrel?
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>stop writing for one day
>never pick it up again
>begin rationalising that it was never in my power and I'm merely a slave of my material condition
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>an old fat man; a tun of man . . . that trunk of humours, that bolting-hutch of beastliness, that swollen parcel of dropsies, that huge bombard of sack, that stuffed cloak-bag of guts, that roasted Manningtree ox with the pudding in his belly
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keep writing
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with that kind of premium, quality writing, you’re all bound to hit the jackpot *any* day now
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So say we've succeeded at breeding supermen and the inferior have been enslaved or exterminated, what happens next? Do the supermen just play around until the next cycle of decadence?
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new poem
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It's Friday, which means its time for a new fragment
(reupload for better res)
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My cart
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Cop or nah what you faggots think?
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What the fuck was this nigga on about?
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If only they'd mated...
Their child could have written the book that would have made the entirety of red/lit/ to the morgue with acute diffuse subarachnoid hemorrhages...
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Why can't they write literature?
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What is a body without organs
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>Everyday life isn’t dull, it's a Greek epic in disguise.
What did Joyce mean by this?
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>Be me.
>Dollar Store cashier.
>Scan a book. Looks like a standard low stakes chick lit book. Probably aimed at young girls.
>Read the back.
>"16 year old Emily is concerned about Johnathan. He's been shoplifting and making a lot of money off of it. And Emily has been noticing how money changes people."
>Sounds really boring. Why would anyone give a shit about....
>"But Johnathan loves the money. And he loves watching Emily get undressed from his window."

What the fuck kinda intro did I just read?
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>If, then, when the mind ripens and reflection appears, the untenable nature of such [metaphysical] doctrines forces itself upon him, he has nothing better to put in its place, nay, is no longer capable of understanding anything better, and thus loses the comfort which nature had destined for him also, as a compensation for the certainty of death. In consequence of such a process, we see even now in England (1844), among ruined factory hands, the Socialists, and in Germany, among ruined students, the young Hegelians, sink to the absolutely physical point of view, which leads to the result : edite, bibite, post, mortem nulla voluptas, and so far may be defined as bestialism.
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Best books on pre-cataclysm civilisations?
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>Plato bad because uhhh... LE HITLER AND LE HECKIN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
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the rat
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I remember it well: I was on my way to work on a cold morning. During the night, it had rained heavily—so much that the streets were still wet, carrying that distinct smell of rain.

The sidewalk I walked on was one of those worn down by time, riddled with cracks, some wider than others. Not far from my path, there was a rat. The poor thing was dead.

I stepped closer. Its soaked body lay twisted, mouth frozen open, as if its last act had been a stifled scream. I didn’t know how it had died—perhaps crushed under a careless step, perhaps consumed by hunger, by a silent fever, or by the merciless cold of the night. But the cause mattered little.

What mattered was that it was there, exposed to the elements. There, in that fragile, discarded husk, lay the fate that awaits us all: death.
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as much a lot of writers would like to write whatever the hell they feel like writing? Not realistic. Take female characters. With almost all agents being female? You have to give them something. For instance, in my one project. I needed a "big" side character, not the main protagonist, that end up helping and providing resources to the (male) protagonist.
I refuse to go in for the "girl boss wonder woman" female character. Its silly. It disrupts the movie in my head, that I get when I read. I made her "strong" and competent? But, in a realistic field. In a realistic way, that was possible. Working with that, I realized my protagonist would never be in a romantic relationship yet, he's devastated anyways. SO, just when you would think she was hitting on him? Teaser. She was telling him... her date for dinner coming over? Is, in fact... her girlfriend.
Which, was a "drop in" on my part. A fake little fedora tip, that I had a strong female character, and now she has a girlfriend. I had fun with it? Her girlfriend, is a nitwit. yeah, like a successful capable guy? Might have a nitwit for a wife or girlfriend.
It rounded out the story. It made for tiny subplots and some humor. And hey, I have to assuage the gatekeepers and toss them s-o-m-e-t-h-i-n-g. ALl, while keeping it all realistic, and avoiding the obvious tropes. I get my "digs" in though, and enough little conservative things along the way.
It took me a long time to learn to write female characters? Without running to stereotypes.
Anyone else... "add" things like this? And yeah, I'll call it a "fake fedora tip", just to pass muster.
I do this with my male characters, too. I'm bored with the tall, muscular, expert at everything hero. Its a book, not a comic book. My protagonist (male), has weaknesses. I go for gritty and noir realism. But again, anyone else do a fake fedora tip, to pass muster?
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Why do /lit/ ignore feminism?
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I feel like some of the things that feminism has to say give us a lot of insight into our society, especially regarding patriarchy. Why do men behave the way they do, and why do women behave the way they do?

I don't think this is a useless information.
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