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http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading >girl asks if we are "old buddies" or "something more"
>Tell her "we'll see how it goes"
>"I'm not interested sorry"
You know what that means boooois
Tonight,I'm finishing Albert Camus Stranger THEN I'm gonna read American Psycho.
THEN I'm gonna go see my workout program and go do 5x10 bench and ONLY BENCH
Fucking great start to my day frens,are there any books that capture this feeling?
I'd rather love to read some. Thread question:
How much does /sffg/ or other related outlets, like the Goodreads group, actually factor into your reading decisions?
>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg BEARD FAGS ABSOLUTELY BTFO What's so bad about this world exactly? Everyone post the moment you realized brick and mortar bookstores no longer considered readers a demographic, and that online bookstores are next.
>walk into BN today to find a journal, since I always buy them from there
>bombarded with visual media telling me to buy a book about Biden and go to the starbucks
>walk over to where the journals were last time after they moved the visit before
>it's now reference books
>son of a fucking bitch not again
>start walking around to find them, already too angry to let someone help me
>walk past lgbtq/gender studies section
>what the fuck when did this get here
>every book I see is written by
>Hillary Clinton, Chelsea Clinton, Melinda Gates, Michelle Obama
>this isn't even gender studies it's just convincing women that it's normal to find the most powerful man you can and get pregnant
>fucking kill me
>see the section marked "journals" above the fray
>turn to walk towards it, tip over a gundam model display which in turn tips over 6 shelves of board games, yu-gi-oh! Cards, nooks, DVDs, vinyl records, puzzles, straight up childrens toys, Harry Potter merchandise, and anime shit
>just fucking ignore it and walk towards the journals
>have to walk past a wall of books that all have "stoic" in the title
>e.g. cooking with stoics, the working stoic, stoic motherhood, etc
>ah yes, the philosophy section, my favorite
>despite being soifest BN they only have a single book by Foucault because they've fallen that far into pandering
>whatever just end my life
>get to the journals, which are flanked by the "social sciences" section
>I sure hope none of you are white because just by looking at the titles white people are the only problem in the social sciences
>an actual title was "White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide"
>whatever we're all gonna die anyway
>look at the journals
My choices are:
>shit for kids
>disgustingly ornate journals for showing off to whatever pseudo-writer circlejerk you belong to
>15 variants of "live laugh love" decorated journals
>"writing prompt" journals
>fucking gridline journals
What I wanted:
>a black book with lined pages to write my notes it
>start to walk out, see more journals in the impulse by section near checkout
>what the fuck, why put them there when you have a section for them
>pick one up
>little thin but otherwise alright, I'll just buy a couple
>just kill me
>turn the journal over
>"sync with your Google notes and Google calendar through the app!"
>I don't want to sync my innermost thoughts with fucking Google, I want a goddamn journal.
>realize I'm officially old at the ripe age of 27
>go home and pray for death
And to those of you who are telling me to "go to a local bookstore" or "just buy used on the internet"
>local bookstore currently has zero in-store shopping. You get to squint through shitty Facebook photos and call in
>used books are a temporary solution to a trajectory issue Drop your favorite wikipedia pages
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor why did Engels stick with Marx? everything I read just paints a picture of a lazy racist bum and shit friend leading a revolutionary political cult, while being fed, clothed and kept alive by a friend he literally got the idea for the cult for and let do most of the actual work.
Was Engels the biggest simp of all time or why did they continue being friends? does /lit/ actually buy books? Have you ever considered taking up monastic life Is this the peak of /schizolit/?
Any other schizopost books that feel like the Zampano parts? Nobody recommends ANY good books anymore it’s all just shit posting and denial of death posting now >Open a philosophy book
>Read the axioms
>Reject them as complete nonsense
>Filter through 99% of all philosophy Most overrated book ever? About to start Kierkegaard's The Concept of Anxiety, what am I in for /lit/? What do you read and what is your goal in reading?
I read books on:
>social history (usually niche topics)
>some political theory and conspiracies
My main goal is to understand the purpose of art and what art does.
What are you looking for? Seriously, even those who I think are dead wrong about everything. I love ideas, and when I read classic philosophy I am often struck and humbled by the visionary intellect which I am reading the product of. I don't get people who unironically think that 'X philosopher was a brainlet". >The great American novel is about cowardice in the face of duty
Can't make this shit up Is War and peace the best novel of the history? Does anyone on /lit/ share this hobby? Download the latest issue of & for free:
>circlejerk over our prose
>euthanize F Gardner
>discuss ideas for /hyperlit/
>invent new words
>post our novel ideas
>attempt to find and share coupon codes for magcloud
>convince OP that learning inDesign is better than whatever he's doing now Bought this. What am I in for? How the fuk did they all hear
a fucking orangutan as speaking like a human in a foreign language? Have you ever heard one of them motherfuckers? They just chirp and grunt. Im a retard that needs books to understand the world
Everyone seems to be a smart & functional human being without ever having picked up a book outside of an educational setting I miss the old threads where we would talk about Emily Brontes autism /lit/ questions that don't deserve their own thread >as regards the sexes, the male is by nature superior and the female inferior, the male ruler and the female subject
holy based I'm the most dangerous kind of man there is. A brother who's both booksmart and streetsmart. What is the most /lit/ name? put 'litbooks' in interests and chat with some litizens! books is too general.
keep it alive! What are some good books about depression? Do you read out loud or in your head? I'm 34 years old and after reading Evola for the past 2 years every other author seem a brainlet who shouldn't even attempt to write about religion and politics
Should I become a brainlet or is there anything superior I'm missing? Is there any other author at least 6/10 like Schuon? or Fr. Charles Coughlin? what are the essentials of coomer literature? how much of a shitshow is this going to be What are you currently reading /lit/? I'm almost halfway through, but have no idea what's going nor do I now where it's going. Am I being filtered by Negarestani? prev:>>17280419
Any progress on your novels?
>The Art of Fiction
>On Becoming A Novelist
>Writing Fiction: A Guide to Narrative Craft
>How Fiction Works
>The Rhetoric of Fiction
>Steering the Craft
>The Poetry Home Repair Manual
>Western Wind: An Introduction to Poetry
>What Editors Do
>A Student's Introduction to English Grammar
>Garner's Modern English Usage
Suggested books on storytelling:
>The Weekend Novelist
>Hero With a Thousand Faces
>Romance the Beat
Suggested books on getting your fucking work done you lazy piece of shit:
> Formatting manuscript
> Write a query
> Track your query
>General grammar/syntax/editing help
> When/where/how should I write?
> What software should I write with?
> Amazon Publishing to make that KDP monie
> Be like Charles Dickens and write serially
> Basic overview of the Screenplay format
https://screenwriting.info/ What are the most well known authors? I'm not talking academically, here. I mean, authors someone would know, even if they couldn't read. So far I've got:
Edgar Allen Poe
H.P. Lovecraft ITT: post writers that have killed people. What books does one need to outcompete upper middle class zoomer Bongs?
https://youtu.be/0veI5_55DEs Is deconstruction black magic? >cannot focus on reading
>take 25mg of xr adderall
>still cannot focus on reading
wtf do i do now? /lit/ recommend me books that will make me a hero does anybody have any book recommendations about being closeted? i have read confessions of a mask and it was good but i want more and to not feel so lonely on this subject
i get it faggot faggot whatever but i am bein serious frens What are some Schopenhauerian novels? >The art lies in setting the inner life into the most violent motion with the smallest possible expenditure of outer life; for it is the inner life which is the real object of our interest - The task of the novelist is not to narrate great events but to make small ones interesting. >waah I'm scared to take responsibility for my actions
Well then, give your best argument for determinism. I'll refute. what books do you regret reading? Redpill me on Russian Nihilism Is this normal?
https://famouskin.com/famous-kin-menu.php?name=41896+thomas+pynchon Why does /lit/ shit on Rand but worship Nietzsche? They're pretty much the same thing. What are you currently reading? Did Dostoevsky intend for the second half of this book to be a dark comedy? I couldn't help but laugh at the pettiness of the underground man. >make the left AND the right seethe to this day
>still unrefuted DUDE WHEELS WITHIN WHEELS WITHIN WHEELS LMAO Why is this the best that scifi can offer?
Pitifiul *ssssspit* Basically the premise of this book is something like:
>women as a class have manipulated men into desiring "slavery" (supporting them and their children)
>The manipulation started even with his mother who voluntarily made herself appear needy and weak
>Because of this men seek a woman who can fill the role that his mother used to
>women guilt men into thinking that women sacrifice themselves to be housewives (when in reality they would much rather clean, bake cakes, and putz about with loads of free time than work in coal mines or factories)
>As man makes things easier for women (more legal protections, increased household automation, etc) women desire even more- leaving man in a constant panic to produce more out of guilt: "I can't believe women sacrifice so much for us"
>As women gained more freedom (access to work, higher education) they simply optimized their mate-selection to get the most bang for their buck
>Women's emancipation movements always fail because they target the very men who (out of a slave mentality) are constantly bending over backwards to make women's lives easier
>This is evidenced by the LACK of women in jobs that aren't "fun" (which we still see today despite this book being written in 1975)
Anyone else read it? Thoughts? >I disguised myself as a shepherd, Orlando. I’m shepherd ROSAAAAALIIIIIIIND! >O for a voice like thunder, and a tongue
>To drown the throat of war! When the senses
>Are shaken, and the soul is driven to madness,
>Who can stand? When the souls of the oppressed
>Fight in the troubled air that rages, who can stand?
>When the whirlwind of fury comes from the
>Throne of God, when the frowns of his countenance
>Drive the nations together, who can stand?
>When Sin claps his broad wings over the battle,
>And sails rejoicing in the flood of Death;
>When souls are torn to everlasting fire,
>And fiends of Hell rejoice upon the slain,
>O who can stand? O who hath causèd this?
>O who can answer at the throne of God?
>The Kings and Nobles of the Land have done it!
>Hear it not, Heaven, thy Ministers have done it! I've seen this posted here a lot but it's fucking long. What is it like? Thoughts on Charles Bukowski? Hello anon, i like poetry.(only read French poetry)
I know some by heart,I want to have better recitation please help me.
Is there a place where I can I go to listen poems after corona?
Can you send nice things you heard in youtube or else Recommendations for good fantasy novels where characters a chaste and don't engage in fornication? What's /lit/'s take on Journey to the End of the Night and Death on Credit? ITT we pretend to argue about an ideology and or philosopher/s that don't exist. Is Roger Scruton right? Does Qutb's thought pose the greatest danger to the west?
From his book How to be a Conservative
>Our national narrative may change, but what underlies it is something that remains always in place: the secular law. We who have been brought up in the English-speaking world have internalized the idea that law exists to do justice between individual parties, rather than to impose a uniform regime of commands. Other Western systems have also reinforced the attachment of citizens to the political order – notably Roman law and its many derivatives (the code napoléon among them). It was evident from the earliest days of Christianity that the New Testament was not an attempt to replace the law of the imperial power, but an attempt to make a space for spiritual growth within it. In his parables, Christ emphasized that the secular law is to be obeyed, and that our duty to God does not require us to defy or to replace it. Nor should we pay too much attention to the finicky edicts of the Torah, since ‘the Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath’.
>To someone raised on the doctrine that legitimate law comes from God, and that obedience is owed to Him above all others, the claims of the secular jurisdiction are regarded as at best an irrelevance, at worst a usurpation. Such is the message of Sayyid Qutb’s writings, and of Milestones (ma‘alim fi’l tariq, 1964) in particular. In that book, Qutb denounces secular law, national identity and the attempt to establish a purely human political order without reference to the revealed will of God: all are blasphemous in Qutb’s eyes. Qutb’s followers have included Osama Bin Laden and his successor Ayman al-Zawahiri
>Anybody who understands what is at stake in the global conflict that is developing today will, I believe, come to see that the nation is one of the things that we must keep. In what follows, therefore, I shall be appealing to people who identify their political rights and duties in national terms, and who have learned to put God in the place where He belongs.
He goes on to describe Islam as standing against and the biggest threat to all the core western values Religion never died.
Instead of worshipping God, we now worship humanity.
The UN Human Rights Declaration is our 10 Commandments, the US Constitution is the Bible, and the UN is our Vatican.
Our modern Church of Humanity is every bit as superstitious and obscurantist as all the other religions that came before it.
We still live in theocracies. What's the book equivalent of this? Are there novels similar to Lynch films? Specifically the Lost Highway - Mulholland Drive - Inland Empire trilogy:
- Nonlinear narrative
- Unexpected dreamlike sequences that come out of nowhere and seem distant from the plot until you watch(read) the whole thing
- Story abruptly changes to the perspective of a completely different main character, but this character is implied to be a different version of the original main character
^ That last bit seems so perfect for written fiction. Unlike the Lynch movie where the alter-ego is "given away" either by clearly transforming into the main character (as in Lost Highway) or being played by the same actress (Mulholland Drive). In a written work you could simply jump into another story with a new character with a different name, although the astute reader would be able to tell it's really the same individual. I tend to have very bad anxiety (like the constant type that doesn't go away) and it makes it difficult to focus on what I'm reading. Any tips? Which books will help me kill my sex drive and renounce women for good? >Alright anon, it's 3 pm and we just woke up. We're going to need to score some opium, loiter around the trendiest art galleries, have sex with five or six of the women who want to model for our paintings, get our hands on some amphetamines so we can bang out another 5,000 words for those avant-garde magnum opera of ours with rather blatant anti-jewish undertones, go on a pub crawl with the wives of our editors, then get back to our hotel by 6am so we can read another chapter of Nieztsche while receiving blowjobs from my schizoid arthoe cousin before going to bed so we can wake up and do it all over again. You ready? Starting Will and Ariel Durant's "Story of Civilization", all eleven volumes. They're very flawed but extremely enjoyable.
If you're interested let me know what pace works for you guys. If not then well
Discord group here
https://discord.gg/PHjrYb8epk I will award a special prize to the person who can most accurately define the word 'deconstruction', in however many meanings you are aware of. >Thomas Carlyle: Victorian sage who argued that modern democracy brought cultural mediocrity. The greatest literature and the noblest human attainments are found under benevolent despotisms. We are condemned to live in "the Age of Machinery", in which art and poetry are reduced from "inspiration" to mechanical reproduction.
Did Carlyle precede Walter Benjamin and the Frankfurt School? is the little prince worth reading?
today or maybe tomorrow I'll finish american psycho(which doesn't even seem to have an ending) and I'm looking for something short to kill some time
also, it is one of those books that is frequently mentioned in a conversation about books and I want to have an idea about it (if you have any other recommendations I'm open) Who or what can truly teach me about Stoicism that isn't just the surface level? I am mentally healthy because I read fiction, poetry, and drama rather than philosophy >Fleshes out Herder and Hamann's anticipation of the linguistic turn
>anticipates Heidegger's ontology and existential analysis of death
>demonstrates God's necessity
>listens to Jesus' Word and discovers the nature of the Father
>solves mind/body dualism
>gives the first and richest account of the unconscious
>demonstrates the commensurability between mind and matter
>underscores the spiritual dimensions of nature while appreciating theoretical approximations
>isn't terrified of infinity like Kant.
Please remind me why we still do philosophy after Schelling when he has literally solved it? Why has literature never been as influential has music? So I just started this book so I can get a better understanding on how to bridge the gap between my heart and mind. I want to know what other anons think of this work and why you feel that way. Also, if you liked it, are there any more Scruton books I should read? I really do like his takes on how aesthetics affect ethics and vice versa. Makes the whole philosophical system more holistic Is hiring a prostitute just to be able to write a realistic sex scene for my novella a good idea? Read this in a sitting today and thought it was incredible. What are some other great short story comps? books that the protoganist lives in a world without hope. >”A woman who is perfectly truthful and not given to dissimulation is perhaps a impossibility.”
>”Taken as a whole, women are . . . thorough-going philistines, and quite incurable.”
>”[Women are] the second sex, inferior in every respect to the first.”
>” Women are . . . big children all their life--a kind of intermediary stage between the child and the full-grown man.”
I only started reading him for blackpills, but only now realized he was this based. Best poets writing today (who are not people writing about politically correct themes, race, prejudice, homosexuality, feminism, etc.).
All the lists I search on Google about great contemporary poets are basically variations on the same theme: people from "excluded" layers of society, writing protest/confessional poetry, usually in free-verse, with a language that looks something like prose broken in lines verse. There's almost no imagery: it's almost like social media posts broken into short, verse-like lines.
Nothing against these people, but I have no interest in political pamphlets. I would like to read about universal themes, in a language that shows great capacity for invention. Imagine actually wasting years of your life to study languages when you can just read world class translations that capture the essence of the prose better than any "translation" you'd make in your own head while reading. Does anyone have the other French Catholic chart, the one with monarchist books on it? I couldn't find it on the Wiki. it's all boring love poetry Do some screenwriters deserve the same level of respect as traditional writers, such as novelists, poets, and playwrights? >baudelaire
>published the N word
>published the N word
>published the N word
>published the N word
>all world-renown and read in french high schools
B- based? It has for years excited the curiosity of the publick, to inquire as to the reason for why the janitor does it for free, a question that is equally popular amongst todays philosophers. There has been a common supposition, towards the janitor believing that he may eventually be paid for his efforts, but, considering the principles I have previously proved, this is a mere sophistry. For, according to the three primary faculties of reasoning, that of resemblance, contiguity, and causation, it is impossible the jannie should find himself under this impression. There is nothing the jannie knows that bears resemblance to money, nor anything found in his life which may have excited his senses with the impression of money, and as such he has never experienced a connexion of any sort, be it of constant relation or tradition, between himself and payment. The objection may be made, that the janitor is incapable of human reason, or that he may actually be inhuman himself, and while I must confess it an impossibility to disprove this objection, I find myself in want of a more satisfactory answer. To pursue this may be in err, an act of pure foolishness informed by a lively and untamed chimera, but as has been previously made evident, all philosophy must never ignore human nature, lest you should find yourself mired in pure skepticism, in which truth cannot be found. I believe an explanation exists within the boundaries of human understanding established thus far, which will shew the reasoning behind the janitor’s mad behavior, which is that his work, by a pathology foreign to most men, excites the passion of pride, and it is this hypothesis I will venture to prove. I always see anons shitposting about their books being "well-read" when in reality they are just destroyed.
I can't undestand how a normal (or even slighly retarded) can destroy an object during reading. Am I missing some joke here? I legit see people thinking this is a good thing, not even the magazines handled by greasy toddlers suffer so much damage, I legit don't understand how it is possible to fuck all the books you read like this. Post your novel ideas. It's not like they're going anywhere. Why doesn't this place like T.S. Eliot more? Surely in an age where sexual frustration is pushed to its peak ala incels, there should be space and real, genuine empathy for a character like Prufrock. ok faggots, you're all so smart so tell me, why is there something rather than nothing? Isn't asking God for strength cheating What are the essential burgerpunk classics? How am I supposed to write anything when I have no confidence in the future of my culture, or belief in anything outside myself?
To write for the public, you have to disguise your egoism. A novel can't be about how your self-insert got rich, evaded all taxes, assembled a harem, and got away with murder. Not even people who want those things would be interested in such arid wish-fulfilment. Unless it was some kind of guidebook, but if I could write one of those, then wouldn't need to write a novel.
A novel has to be about not having what you want, but if I started from there, I'd just be writing about someone who wanted to make money from writing novels and was too arrogant to stoop to doing young adult romance with love triangles. My actual life is barren and void, and this was the case in 2019 - it was a source of amusement to me how little my life changed last year. I have no curiosity about others, feel no common ground with them, don't see them going down a good path; I don't want to write about people I disagree with so violently about everything.
But despite this alienation, I don't want to pander to them. Some foolish part of me hopes I could be understood or have common ground with others, and that writing some debased and pandering piece of genre fiction would ruin my chances for friendship with such people, even though I haven't seen any evidence for their existence.
Do you have anything to say about my malignant autism? How do I recapture the imagination I had as a child? I’m reading her for the first time. I’ve seen the Wise Blood movie a bunch and really like it, so I decided to get her works. I have The Complete Stories and Wise Blood, and I plan on reading through all of them.
So far I’ve read The Geranium, The Barber, Wildcat, The Crop, The Turkey, The Train, and The Peeler. These are all very good
Any of you anons have any thoughts on Flannery O’Connor? Is there /lit/ chart for Westerns? >commits suicide
>becomes a legend
Is that the secret? The Lady is the best female fantasy character of all time >I see that the will has attempted to manifest itself yet again Let's have another horror thread
Read anything spooky lately? How about something weird? What do you recommend? Who do you recommend? Come here to get spooked! Will this book make me smart? If not what will? wtf was schopenhauer gay bros? Can I learn multiple languages at the same time by spending some time each day reading in said languages equally? Which is the greater cope?
Creating your own subjective meaning and contributing to society despite it's clear flaws and seeming futility
Using society's clear flaws and futility to justify never doing anything with your life? >book written by an urban dweller
Instantly dropped More books about this topic? This was very impressive. I'm not sure if it was any good, though. I'm reading the CPR and I feel like I'm getting closer to understanding it, but I need your help, /lit/. If cause and effect are in the mind then how is there any relation between the thing in itself and appearance? If there is no relation, then how is Kant any different to a pure idealist like Berkeley? Best books on animism and indo-european paganism? ii books with autistic protagonists Any books like Blood Meridian out there? I've already read Moby Dick, and while it was good, there's just something about Blood Meridian that really sets it apart.
Also, what makes Cormac McCarthy just so good? What is wrong with Spain? How come a country with such a long history has only managed to produce one noteworthy author, and even then he's not that great? Why do people read one philosophy book and immediately become an insufferable brainlet spouting lines as if it were their own thought? Youd think Kyle WAS Karl Marx the way he spergs out with lines from chapter 7. discuss Looking for something to read similar to the True detective TV show. Besides this:
1. Herman Melville
2. Walt Whitman
3. William Faulkner
4. Edgar Allan Poe
5. Ralph Waldo Emerson
6. Philip K. Dick
7. Thomas Pynchon
8. William Gaddis
9. Cormac McCarthy
11. Kurt Vonnegut
12. Ezra Pound
13. Henry David Thoreau
14. John Steinbeck
15. Ursula Le Guin
16. Frank Herbert
17. Ernest Hemingway
18. F. Scott Fitzgerald
19. Truman Capote
20. Mark Twain
21. Don DeLillo
22. Philip Roth
23. Allen Ginsberg
24. William Burroughs
25. Jack Kerouac
26. Alexander Theroux
27. Charles Bukowski
28. Toni Morrison
29. Hunter S. Thompson
30. William Gibson I mean, I can watch most horror movies without flinching, but...this is fear There is a very specific concept that I don’t know a word for that I am trying to understand and explore. The only thing I can think to compare it to is like the painting in The Picture of Dorian Gray and of The Zone in Stalker. Something that illustrates the mind within the mind.
Is there a philosophical concept I should be looking for? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tZ9Nd1TGTE&ab_channel=NewWorldOrder It's getting published hard or is just that 99.9% writers are hacks that can't write? Looking for books that deal with either fastfood industry or more broadly the meat/livestock industry, and their political influence and (social) media presence.
Pic related is a shit example >Là! Je me tue à vos genoux !
>Car ma détresse est infinie,
>Et la tigresse épouvantable d'Hyrcanie
>Est une agnelle au prix de vous. George Orwell was a socialist, he was writing about TRUMPISM!
https://youtu.be/chSM5aNQ3kY I'm about halfway through this book and literally nothing has happened so far besides Robert Jordan hooking up with a Spanish girl. Is the build up worth it? >just be perfect in every single situation and have perfect genetics bro!
Wow thanks aristotle, this is all surely achievable by your average man Who benefits most from the literary canon? Hey /lit/,
I love you. Thanks for being there. I don't care if I'm arguing with nazis or Steinbeck fans. I love you.
Books for this feel? Why does no one here talk about him? How many unread books are sitting on your shelf? I have like 400. My God, why does no one talk about him? Is there a madman alive who has actually read the complete theological trilogy, all 7500 pages of it? Is he our Augustine and Aquinas for the next 700 years? I have never felt so inadequate in the face of another human being, save maybe for Schelling. >Gentleman: I say helot, the state of your country is wretched!
>Helot: Indeed gentleman. All you can see around me is squalor, corruption,
poverty and barbarism. That is all there is in my country.
>Gentleman: Tell me helot, are all your fellow countrymen like this? Corrupt,
uneducated and course?
>Helot: Most people in my village know how to read and write. But this is not
so in most villages. We are so poor that any son has to go and work before
he finishes his education. The only means he has of success are through corruption.
Many are drawn to this path only as a way to escape destitution.
>Gentleman: And what happens to those who, through fortune or will, become educated?
>Helot: They are in government.
>Gentleman: Do they do anything to alleviate your plight?
>Helot: No, gentleman. They do not. In fact, such a thing has never been heard to happen.
The corruption found amongst the people has infected the government. The only difference is
scale of theft. They want to govern so that they may obtain power and wealth. Improving the
lot of the people they care not one iota.
>Gentleman: What you describe is a dire state of affairs! In my country, we have institutions
to prevent theft of government property. Law applies to all equally. We make education mandatory
for men and women. The poor are taught trades. We regularly hold leaders to account. Should they
grow arrogant and hold their private interest above the public they are removed from office and
face public humiliation.
>Helot: You describe a well ordered state.
>Gentleman: If you were given a choice, would you proceed with your current rulers? Or switch so
that you are ruled by the men who rule in my country.
>Helot: I no doubt would be happier and more civilized under the rule of men from your country.
Was colonialism evil? Is it better to just leave people alone? What the fuck did I just read? Is James Bond autistic?
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