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"/lit/ - Literature" is 4chan's board for the discussion of books, authors, and literature.

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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

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/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General
Battle Knights
Battle Knights Edition

Previous Thread:>>21311319

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)


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/wg/ Writing General
"Flow Model" Edition


Please limit excerpts to one post.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.
If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.
Violent shills should be ignored and reported.

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JP /lit/ bros, we have been exposed
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Say I send a letter to ol' Pinecone, how likely is he to recieve it? Or will Melanie just throw it away? What if I send him a lot of money and swear that I'm not a reporter or anything?
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What do you guys consider the greatest opening line or paragraph to a book?
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poetry op
It's the early Tuesday OC Poetry thread.
Your thread prompt: "Sappho had a Husband"
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Why do women love Rupi Kaur so much? Are her poems /lit/ approved?
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What book is a good christmas present for a kid?
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What does /lit/ think of Ibn Hazm? One of the main thinkers of the extremely fundamentalist Zahiri school, Ibn Hazm, a son of Spanish Catholics who converted to Islam, was known for being among the strictest graders of hadiths (he actually regarded some of Bukhari’s grades as incorrect) and his unusual opinions (he considered Arabic to be no better than any other language, maintained that Mary a prophet, and regarded music and art as halal—his book “Morals and Behavior”, which said the jihadist’s duty is to defend the honor of a lady, had an impact on later ideas of chivalry, as did Ibn Hazm’s love poetry). He had a significant influence on Ibn Taymiyyah (despite their very different opinions on matters—this is because Ibn Taymiyyah accepted the use of qiyas, analogy in rulings, whereas Ibn Hazm, a staunch empiricist, rejected it) who called Ibn Hazm the most reliable of all authorities when it came to authentically chronically the matters on which there was a unanimous agreement among the first generation of Muslims.
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Continentalcels BTFO epic style by science
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>Guin Saga (グイン・サーガ, Guin Sāga) is a best-selling heroic fantasy novel series by the Japanese author Kaoru Kurimoto, in continuous publication since 1979. A record 100 volumes were originally planned,[4] but the final total stands at 147 volumes and 26 side-story novels, with the last seventeen volumes (+ five side stories) published posthumously.[5] She was working on the 130th volume of Guin Saga up until May 23, 2009, after which point she became too ill to write.[6] After the 100th book in the series was published in 2005, an event to celebrate this was held in Tokyo, with 600 attending.[7] Guin Saga is the longest single-writer's work in the world,[8] with total sales of 30 million copies.[9]

Why isn't this work of historic significance more popular in the West?
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Why does academia INSISTS that you have to cite everything you do? isnt it the point of making an academic paper or a book to ADD knowledge? if i have to cite everything then that means that knowledge can never be original in academia, then what the fuck im a adding?
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my little sister has a birthday soon
what book should i buy as a gift
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Post literature that mostly accurate about woman's nature
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Which author suffered the most?
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what are some books that will help me understand queer theory and the cultural marxist ideology? i want to know what is the ideological justification behind drag queen story hour, trans kids and sex work is work?
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Why do women write shit literature?
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is this literature?
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Havard Classics

>50-volume series of classic works of world literature, important speeches, and historical documents
>...careful reading of the series and following the eleven reading plans included in Volume 50 would offer a reader, in the comfort of the home, the benefits of a liberal education, entertainment and counsel of history's greatest creative minds.[

Has anyone here been bold enough to tackle this monstrous collection?
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What should i read after finishing Plato?
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Its alreadt difficult getting people to read your shit if you're writing in a genre that traditionally does well in self-publishing (military science fiction or trashy romance, for example), but from what I've heard/read/seen, its next to impossible to get anybody to read self-published literary fiction. What do I do? Should I just keep writing and put it all in a big chest for people to find after I've died, like Pessoa did?
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Atheism doesn't exist.
I'm convinced every human being has an intuitive connection to god that some people are just more in denial of than others. Regardless of religion or belief system that is. When saying god I speak of the concept of god as a divine other of course, not about any specific one.
When confronted with their own mortality most people that are in relatively deep denial will change their perspective. The ones that do not are in some sense even bigger believers than most religious people since they die in an functional act of communication with god, the communication being something along the lines of
"I don't believe in you because you have forsaken me." which is a pretty big display of one's own faith in god.

tl;dr The saying "If you want to find god go to sea." is to be taken literally and holds an universal truth.
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>Paul was actually a Jewish agent who wanted to weaken the Romans as payback for the destruction of the 2nd temple.
Was he trolling, or was the syphilis starting to take hold? I like Nietzsche, but even as a goof this is just retarded. The whole point of the epistles was to condemn Judaizers in the church who were trying to hold gentiles to the Law, nevermind the fact that Paul died five years prior to the Siege of Jerusalem.
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Is it any good?
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/lit/ local scene
how do I get involved in my city's literature "scene" anons? is it really just word of mouth am I gonna have to join a facebook group? I would prefer if there was a bar we all drank at like that scene in Midnight in Paris.
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everything this canadian motherfucker ever predicted was going to happen has either happened or is happening right now. why does no one talk about him. he's the closest thing to a prophet the modern world has ever had.
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Warrior cats
Did any of you read these while growing up?
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grammar check
I am reading Trivium and it claims that
>We can say "I am afraid / asleep / unwell / alive" but not "I am an afraid / asleep / unwell / alive person".

Whats wrong with "I am an unwell person"?
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How will I become a light novel writer without being a native speaker
Here's my schizo plan to become a published light novel author.

1) Write my fanfiction harem isekai with lolis in my schizo native spic speak.
2) Translate into english using DeepL and fix issues by hand
3) Check the text using Style checkers using AI editor literary services and grammarly
4) Do a multi engine MT translation
5) Check for grammar issues using bumpo and other japanese grammar checkers.
6) Publish into jap sites like basedsetu
7) Add AI art
8) Shill it using Deepl and brave to navigate on japanese sites
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The whole concept of "learning" language arts, reading, and writing in school is nonsensical. Especially when the teacher or professor asks you to personally write an essay so they can grade you based on performance.

How well you performed in your writing of an essay is completely subjective. There are no right or wrong answers.
>Oh no, you used a comma instead of turning something into a completely new sentence!
Yes, because it looked better that way you pedantic retard.
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An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity. A physicist tries to make it simple; an idiot, anything the more complicated is, the more he will admire it. If you make something so clusterfucked he can't understand it, he's gonna think you're a god cause you made it so complicated nobody can understand it."
- Terry A Davis
People who hate simplicity are pseuds. Being complex in your story is a bad thing and can muddle or negate the point you're trying to make. Simple archetypes are often better for this reason.
That's basically what the greatest works of fiction are. Whether they do it with super simple babby shit like the 10 commandments, or they hit you over the head with it incessantly for hundreds of thousands of words like The Brothers Karamazov, the best works of fiction are very simple.
The only time things need to be complex is when you're not telling a story but just laying out facts. if your story is complex, you're probably a really incompetent author. "If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter." If I had more talent, I would've written a less complex story.
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How the fuck do I force myself to read more?
I've been trying time and again to read more, much more, than I currently do. I can barely scrape by with reading a few books a year, something that I really wish to change. However, focusing on anything has become increasingly difficult, distractions just seem to pop up from everywhere. I manage to read a chapter or two, love what I'm reading, and then for no reason drop it altogether until I pick it back up again half a year later only to do the same. I love reading, write a lot, and even study literature. But I cannot help getting distracted all the fucking time. Help me /lit/.
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can someone tell me if I'm interpreting this correctly?
The Übermensch as described by Nietzsche a replacement for God. God is dead so he must be replaced with another purpose in order to not fall into nihilism. So the Übermensch it's just a self created purpose. It's just basically the same thing as absurdism.
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What am I in for with the Alter translation?
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One book to unfuck your life
Is there such a book which would help you unfuck your life?

Not that I'm particularly fucked (could always be better but it's still alright) but I was just wondering?
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read this, thank me later
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>mom found the manifesto
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The simplest refutation of Nietzsche, is to realize that if the world were truly a good and worthwhile place, then someone like Nietzsche would not have to exist.
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This is probably the best /lit/ essential btw
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She should have won the Nobel Prize, not Dylan.
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Zoomers literally don't read, bros. I'm not making shit up here, NOBODY under the age of like 23 is reading even semi-casually anymore. Fuck self-help books, fuck Wikipedia articles, fuck 4chan posts, the overwhelming majority of young people do not read ANYTHING beyond ESL TikTok captions and unpunctuated text messages. This is what 21st century literacy has become and not a single educator wants to even broach the subject.
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The Author is Broken
why is it that so many people want to be seen as great authors or legendary writers? literature is something for the broken, only the most perverse, oblique, and socially isolated people write literature. rarely, if ever, is a well adjusted person a writer, and it is almost always a glimpse of the fantastic world they've created for themselves to compensate. there is nothing redeeming about writing, it is a symbol of abject failure, and even the lives and goals of authors reflect this, wishing that their words might live on forever, as though they know quite well their own life was worthless.
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/LIT/ Reads Inferno by Dante Alighieri
Tomorrow, December first, I am going to start reading Inferno by Dante. I was here for the Ulysses and War and Peace threads so I thought in the spirit of it, I might try my own. The Divine Comedy has been on my list fro quite a while and I've finally completed the prior "required" reading. Who's up for it?

I think considering the light amount of reading actually required this will be a short read along, although if anyone would like to, I would be willing to continue on with the rest of the Comedy.

Three cantos a day excluding the first day which is four cantos. We will be able to really discuss in depth the meaning of the work as well as share favorite lines.

I will be reading the Musa (Penguin) translation. I also have the Hollander handy for reference. If any other anons have better ideas I'm all ears. I really never paid attention to the OP post in those read along threads so ig excuse the informality
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IMG_0727 (4)
shelf thread (1/12)
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The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
Is The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich worth reading? Some say it's good, others say it's too inaccurate to be reliable. Is it really that flawed?
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History general – /his/
Conquest by Hugh Thomas
Post good history books actually worth reading itt.
Currently reading picrel and it's comfy kino.
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How did Vronsky go from broke and swimming in debt, to building hospitals?
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Is Narnia worth reading as an adult?
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Bakker bros
Why didn't you tell me Achamian is a literal faggot ahead of time, and saved me 17 bucks. Into the trash it goes.
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This is the most important book for any Catholic.
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/lit/ bloomerites BTFO
cris chud
Here we can see the eternal conflict between a real writer and literary critics that will never write nothing (bloomerites).
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Toxic male manipulator books
What are some books that would fit in this genre? You guys know what I'm talking about.
I'll start with a few:
Notes from The Underground
Herman Melville
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Theo k
Why has he become so popular as of lately? Remember that he bombed a bunch of innocent people.
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I used to think language should be allowed to 'evolve naturally' but after seeing the way zoomers speak and how English (this is happening to other languages too) is degenerating into a disgusting pidgin of ebonics and meme slang, I now realize that linguistic integrity is something very important that must be preserved and even forced upon the populace at an institutional level.
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Why do men write such shit "literature"?
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Has anyone read this biography? Your thoughts?
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Did he support Castro? Why is being a good artist so intertwined with being communist?
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My current reading speed is 167 wpm at 75% comprehension. I tried reading the same way I would read a book and read again some lines once or twice. Is this reading speed considered good? If not then how can I improve it, reading more doesn't seem to help.
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Is there a stronger argument against charity and welfare?
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why did jk rowling give up a promising model career to write cheesy tolkien ripoffs?
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What are the best books on sculptural art?
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It's actually not that deep
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Can someone introduce to me a good video on how the fuck do I start reading poetry? How to do it right, without transforming it in a shitty spaced prose? How do I know if really understand what the fuck the author is talking about?
If what I gathered until now is correct, reading poetry can't be done once, like with prose, I basically have to re-read it several times, like rehearsing music before playing.
First skimming read to get the general gist, second analytical read to figure out the meaning, third read to figure out the sonority/cadence, final actual read to perform it like a musician does with his music.
I am losing something? Pic unrelated.
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Did OG Italian fascism/futurism produce any good works of literature?
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/lit/ debunk Johanna Schopenhauer
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Goodreads thread
Post your profile, I won’t start because I’m shy and just want to see what you all are reading
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Do you pace while reading, anon? Perhaps... walk?
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What books will make you smarter?
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did any famous authors ever use escorts?
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This is better than LotR. I kneel, Americans.
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Is whether you enjoy reading or not ingrained into you from a young age?
I’ve been told that I’ve been obsessed with reading since I was a toddler but none of my siblings enjoy reading. I don’t think we were raised that differently.
What makes a person enjoy or dislike reading?
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J.R.R. Tolkien wrote elf sex stories but Christopher didn't feel comfortable about publishing them
>I [Professor Kilby] was invited to dinner with some of the faculty at Christ Church and afterwards one member asked me if The Silmarillion had any sex, in the modern sense, in it. Next day I mentioned this to Tolkien and, to my surprise, he said he had written a couple of sex stories, though he did not volunteer to show them to me.
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Sociopath-core. Anyone have any books that teach you how to manipulate others for your own gain. Of course this includes seducing women as well. Keep in mind that I'm not being malicious and it's likely other people will benefit when they benefit me. Anyway I've pic related is a good place to start.
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>blacks are our brothers free the slaves, save john brown

>no no we should invade africa and india. They need us to civilize them. They need our help.

>no not like that, thats cruel.

Whats up with victor hugos life? Any books i should read to understand this mindset?
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Is there an actual modern text that rationalizes how we could return to some state of harmony between man and nature? Or is industry really just going to roll over it all?
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How can anyone seriously read the elves as anything other than a metaphor for europeans?
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Any good books that has well written women by non female authors?
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Why no one told me that erotic literature made by and for women is the most mysoginistic form of fiction there is? Pic related checked all my woman-hating incel boxes so perfectly I can't believe it wasn't made specifically for me.
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Scholars and shitposters of /lit/, this is the time and thread to discuss Remarque's All Quiet on the Western Front/Im Westen nichts Neues, an awful book full of "anaemic asphalt poetry".
Such was the opinion of Wilhelm Müller-Scheld, erstwhile president of the short-lived NS film academy, in his 1929 study and criticism of Remarque's book: "Im Westen nichts Neues. Eine Täuschung" ("All Quiet on the Western Front. An illusion") — which I chanced upon during my college years. Few years later, I'm reminded of Scheld as Netflix releases xeir adaptation, and before some retarded newfag gets triggered and cries shill: I pirated it and never paid shit, fuck your streaming sites you fucking zoomer, kill yourself.
Anyways I found a copy (ZVAB), but it was obviously written in Fraktur, and so I decided to render it in the antiqua style to practice my German and Fraktur reading and now I'm done and here's the link:
It's in German, in the spirit of anon/Bernd I'd love to translate it in its entirety one day but that'll take considerable time and effort if I ever get around to it. In the meantime I'll be bringing you bits and pieces of the text along with my own reflections during the next few days. I hope anons will engage with this but even if this thread ends up really gay and just me I'll be certain that it's at least on-topic (thank dog the board's slow as balls). Of course there's the historical novelty, but other than that it's an interesting exercise in literary criticism. Once more and to be clear: Pic related is there to get your attention. Still I'll probably refer to the movie from time to time.
I had a lot of personal questions regarding how to make the text available and landed on a .pdf uploaded to catbox. This allows to play around with formatting easily which I'll get around to. If anyone knows a better way, please share. If there are krautfags around, I appreciate questions and comments.
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why did dostoevsky hate jews? did he even?, can this antisemitism be found in his novels?
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If you listen to audiobooks rather than reading the text with your own eyes, you are a literal subhuman.
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>he does not read at work
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Read The Wandering Inn, Read Mother of Learning, Read I Shall Seal the Heavens.

Also read The Prince of Nothing, Neuromancer, Cradle, A Song of Ice and Fire, Hyperion, Between Two Fires, The Poppy War.
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/clg/ - Classical Languages General
Romulean edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

Best way to learn is to pick a textbook and start reading it. Don't ask, just read
Ignore shitposters, do not feed the trolls
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What works of spiritual literature are essential for a seeker of inner peace and wisdom?
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Just finished this. Started it saturday or sunday. Idk what a weird book. Filled with weird characters. I will say it was pretty good and kept my attention all the way to the end. Apparently theres a movie thats pretty faithful might watch that later. Not sure what message i was suppose to get from it but it was pretty good.
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why is he never discussed here?
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Non-Conservative Right
Can anyone rec thinkers books on the non conservative right?
>no humanism
>muh western civilisation/heritage
>no tradlarping
>no religious or moral faggotry
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>90 years old
>Zero output for 15 years
>casually releases the best novel of the last decade

How does he get away with it?
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What does /lit/ think about Finnegans Wake? Is it truly the best book ever written or is it just gibberish?
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What do you guys think about Guénon's critique of the modern world?

Is there still a Traditionalism/Esotericism discord server?
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Are transhumanists and other science worshippers just deluded lemmings and byproducts of the current times, or harmful hylic forces disintegrated by satanic influence?
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Who are your top 10 favorite Authors?

Mine are:

1. George Orwell
2. William Faulkner
3. Fyodor Dostoyevski
4. Joseph Heller
5. Gabriel Garcia Marquez
6. Miguel de Cervantes
7. Aldous Huxley
8. J.K. Rowling
9. Ray Bradbury
10. Leo Tolstoy
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English diglossia in the future Anglosphere
How do you deal with that fact that within this century English will enter a state of diglossia? The "standard" English language known by whitoid boomers and taught to ESLs for exams, and the no cap fr AINT NO WAY *skull emoji* niggerspeak propagated by twitch chats, dominant internet culture and the increasingly BLACKED Anglosphere populations to anyone born after the year 2005.

What effect will this have on contemporary English literature?
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You fall in love with a loli (even if she is thirty years old) you end up hurt. Good message.
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>never had bedtime stories read to me
>never listened to audio stories
>never read a book
I just started reading and this is literally me.
Does anybody know how to cope?
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A character from Infinite Jest you can't get out of your mind, and why.
For me it's Poor Tony Krause. The scene where he sees time as a hideous bird perched in the toilet stall - man, that felt so true.
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Are writers more common than readers now?
I know a lot of people who write for fun but not that many people who read for fun. And those who do read for fun, often only read clickbait shit articles and the like. Are there statistics on this by any chance?
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Any books about prostitutes? I know that Victor Hugo was celebrated because of his treatment of hookers after his death and that Dostojewski was rejected by hookers because he was too violent with them, Proust screwed up his first brothel visit by breaking a vase and had to ask his grandpa for more money.
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Christopher Lasch and His Solutions
No social commentator has provided as penetrating and convincing a perspective on the problems of contemporary America as Christopher Lasch. His illumination of the dangers and consequences of the path that the West in general has been on is shown each day to be more and more prescient.

But it's easier to criticize something than it is to fix it. Lasch's proposed solutions to the problems he points out so concisely are vague or imprecise in comparison. Not that he doesn't have anything to say; anyone familiar with his works will know how deeply he cares and that he truly believes in his solutions, at least as a first step. But as a student of pragmatism in the vein of Pierce, his solutions occasionally strike me as wishful thinking, or coming from a very flowery view of human nature.

To be specific, we can consider his defense of religion at the end of Revolt of the Elites. Lasch spends the last essay exploring the ubiquitous modern concept that Weber calls the "disenchantment of the world," and its parallel in Freud, Jung, and some others. After pointing out what Lasch believes are the misconceptions common to each (specifically the likening of modern man's spiritual journey to an irreversible "coming of age" into modern adulthood from the medieval or otherwise religious childhood [perhaps stemming from an underlying belief in some sort of "Progress" that Lasch explores in more detail in True and Only Heaven]), his conclusion, clearly well-argued from a pathos standpoint and very touching, is strange. He veers off into a discussion of the strength of the twice-born religious believer as described by William James in The Varieties of Religious Experience.

What are your thoughts on Lasch, anon?
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Incel philosophers
Who are some other incel philosophers? And why would take someone who never leaves their house (Kant) or someone who is scared/hates/never touches women (Schopenhauer) opinion on matters of morality or women seriously?
Why didn't they just have sex?
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Jay Dyer's top 15 books
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These are Jay Dyer's 15 most important books to read before you die, what do you think?
>St. Augustine, The City of God
>Fyodor Dostoevsky, Crime and Punishment
>Plato, Republic
>Flannery O'Connor, The Complete Short Stories
>Frank Herbert, Dune
>Umberto Eco, The Name of the Rose
>JRR Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings (Addendum: CS Lewis, Space Trilogy)
>George Orwell/Aldous Huxley, 1984/Brave New World
>Carroll Quigley , Tragedy and Hope
>F. William Engdahl , Full Spectrum Dominance
>Daniel Estulin, The Bilderberg Group
>Ken Gentry, Before Jerusalem Fell
>Fr Dmitriu Staniloae, Orthodox Dogmatic Theology Vol I: The Experience of God
>The Bible (The Orthodox Study Bible)
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The foundation of western civilaztion comes from Al-Andalus and the Islamic Golden Age(Muslims). No matter how much you like to pretend that wh*toids are civilized, they lived in mudhuts until muslims shared their books with them. And their descendants of Ancient Greece/Rome LARP is hilarious, westerners learned about aristotle and the others from translated Arabic works.
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Favourite book tuber?
For me it's Lacey.
>soft voice
>easy to ignore what she says
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Philip Pullman
Why does he hate Tolkien and Lewis so much?

>I realised that what [Lewis] was up to was propaganda in the cause of the religion he believed in. It is monumentally disparaging of girls and women. It is blatantly racist. One girl was sent to hell because she was getting interested in clothes and boys.
>They’re often bracketed together, Tolkien and Lewis, which I suppose is fair because they were great friends — both Oxford writers and scholars, both Christians. Tolkien’s work has very little of interest in it to a reader of literature, in my opinion. When I think of literature — Dickens, George Eliot, Joseph Conrad — the great novelists found their subject matter in human nature, emotion, in the ways we relate to each other. If that’s what Tolkien’s up to, he’s left out half of it. The books are wholly male-oriented. The entire question of sexual relationships is omitted.
>[C. S. Lewis's] work is not frivolous in the way that Tolkien is frivolous, though it seems odd to call a novel of great intricacy and enormous popularity frivolous. I just don’t like the conclusions Lewis comes to, after all that analysis, the way he shuts children out from heaven, or whatever it is, on the grounds that the one girl is interested in boys. She’s a teenager! Ah, it’s terrible: Sex — can’t have that. And yet I respect Lewis more than I do Tolkien.
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Thomas Wolfe
thomas wolfe
What am I in for? I'm going to sink my teeth into his stuff, because Faulkner, whom I really like, seems to hold him in high esteem.I'm completely unaware of his character and reputation. Are there similarities?
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Does anyone else rewrite their opinions and memories based on what most posts are saying?
Whenever something gets posted, most of time I have a hard time understanding what it's saying. I'm mostly confused but already have an opinion on the OP for some reason. But immediately after reading through the replies, my brain automatically rewrites my opinion to confirm with the replies, as if it never had the original opinion. If anons shit on OP, I shit on him too. If anons agree with OP, I agree with him too, regardless of my previous opinion. I pretty much forget that I had a previous opinion by that time anyway. lol. Either way, how to stop doing this?
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Tips on Plotinus?
I just finished Plato - had a great time. Now, I am starting with Plotinus. There are a few points I want to clear up with you guys:
>Apparently all the translations suck, but the Guthrie one is the best? It's the one I have, but I was shocked to see the author self-deprecate his own translation in the foreword.
>What's the read order for the Enneads? I have been going through them according to the way the translator/editor have arranged them, which seems to be very different from the order that Porphyry had initially compiled them in. I have no idea why the order is different, but will it hinder my comprehension? I am 50 pages in and haven't had any trouble thus far, at least.
>Note taking - for Plato, his writing style was quite intuitive so I did not feel the need to take any notes. Is Plotinus, for the most part, similarly easy to handle, or is he a more troublesome thinker that requires a lot of notetaking? I am a bit worried because the concentration of new, important information seems to be higher in Plotinus, and it's also often sandwiched by more boring polemical material so my concern is my attention slipping throughout the reading because of the uninteresting polemical aspect and then not being able to retain the new information
Other than this, I don't think I have any major questions for now. I will just say - Plotinus is a fucking genius. He's destroyed incorrect opinions that I did not even knew I had.
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Why do famous writers wage as professors?
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Why do Men in critically praised literary novels just accept cuckoldry?, the women aren't even criticized for it. I know I'm not smart enough to truly understand these books, but I just don't get it, they just get back with the woman, and she keeps cheating on him. Don't know how to interpret the ending. In Madame Bovary too.
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What am i in for lit??
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>René Guénon helps us better understand the dominant vision of cultural and religious diversity that our governments actively promote. In The Crisis of the Modern World , published in 1946, the author largely anticipates multiculturalism as a project for the “ total renovation ” of the West. Because not only the current era is defined by an attempt to " re-enchant the world " , of which the sociologist Michel Maffesoli spoke, but it also remains that of an important expansion of identity in which Guénon would have seen an important source of healing.
>In our view, multiculturalism is neither particularly left nor particularly liberal: above all, it rehabilitates the old romantic fantasy of a spiritual regeneration of the West.
>According to him, “ a more or less profound transformation is imminent ” and “ a change of direction will inevitably have to occur in the short term ” . From the outset, the tone is set. The gravity of the situation is such that Guénon uses apocalyptic visions to announce this great transition to come.
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Is it any good? I can't find a free version of it anywhere.
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2 word story game

Post 2 words try connect with former posters words

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Making money from writing
Has anyone made money off of anything they've published? I'm thinking about self-publishing a book, sick of being poor as fuck, working shit jobs. Writing is my only skill but I'm really good at it. I always think of trying to earn money using it, through publishing something, but for some reason I've a notion that books don't generate profit anymore unless they're best sellers. Am I right or wrong?
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>book called Socrates Apology,
>Socrate doesnt apologize
Ummm, what the ducking heck??
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This just made me cancerdepressed about ageing.
I don't want to grow old bros...
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was it autism?
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Why the hell is fembooktube filled with garbage like this? Each and every one of these girls looks the same, their rooms look the same, the books they read are mediocre at best and their videos are filled with irrelevant gibberish like this that isn't useful. Is there any female at all that does critical and useful insignts into books? The only one I've kind of been acquainted with is Thelma Lavine, and that's far from being proper YouTube.
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"[Meinong] argued, if you say that the golden mountain does not exist, it is obvious that there is something that you are saying does not exist -- namely the golden mountain; therefore the golden mountain must subsist in some shadowy Platonic world of being, for otherwise your statement that the golden mountain does not exist would have no meaning. I confess that, until I hit upon the theory of descriptions, this argument seemed to me convincing."
-- Bertrand Russell
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why you do this
been since '11. kpop used to be one, maybe two big threads hogging the bandwidth. came back recently to this: kpop taking the entire first row of 'most replies'. why are you *letting* this happen?
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Non-globohomo Shakespeare
I used to read these books at my school when I was a kid. They were the straight text, with notes on the left page. Today, they are pushing translations on kids and hiding the originals. Surely nothing going on with that. Surely!

What publisher made the book that is in pic related? My 12 y/o niece is an avid reader and told me she hasn’t read Shakespeare yet (nor any classics). I want to get her pic related versions for Christmas. Pls help me identify the version in the oic!

>inb4 “actually Goldstein and Goldman make a great translation that is actually very true to the original…”
No. If you dont know what my pic is, dont waste the calories typing a recommendation for the Hillary Rodham Clinton Library Edition
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books for this feel
I realize now that all of our higher faculties are enslaved by the passions, which burble out of somewhere so deep and ancient in the brain that it isn’t even recognizable as oneself. I get depressed during the Winter, and I can feel it starting in my body well before the frontal lobe starts to emit ruminations. Our most vital and primal impulses feel so alien to us that the Christian tradition variously attributes them to demons or to St. Paul’s dualistic “body of death”: the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.

But reflecting on it, I really struggle to believe in the human soul. Honest reflection leads me to think that my consciousness consists almost entirely of other people’s fears, desires, hopes, and dreams suffused into my mind through participation in society. “Personality,” wrote Durkheim, “is the individual socialized.” Freud similarly identified the superego as emerging from socialization. And as I reflect on it more, the less it seems that there’s a homunculus, unified self, or incorporeal soul pulling the strings, but rather that the brain is just working to mediate between these constituent parts and conjure an illusion of selfhood.

And yet here I am, perceiving and experiencing all of this. So what am I really? I really don’t understand. Is Buddhism just the ultimate truth about everything? Sorry if this comes across as a schizopost.
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find a flaw
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A one paragraph proof for Christianity
The purpose of the below paragraph is to prove Christianity.

We start with the true blank of discourse, where before entering into small talk, rational discourse, mathematic proves, violence, painting, and other forms of communication and I ask you which of these is rational to choose? Should I cite papers or kill you? Should I show you St. Peter's Basilica or donate to the poor? The Buddhist answers that all and none are equally rational whereas the Gospel answers how they pertain to one another. In this central node of blankness, before going into anything resembling logic, violence, emotions, or anything of that sort where these metaphysical domains do not talk to one another, this center node, i.e. the space between algebra and geometry, is only filled via Jesus Christ's Gospel and is the blank left from the Fall. He does this by showing that the logic of this central place, I call the soulscape, is totally structured with unlimited compassion and charity and that all other metaphysical domains genuflect to that. Out of the abundance of the heart speaketh the mouth.
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Books featuring massive weight gain?
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Are there any examples aside from Tolkien of the Indo European poetic tradition manifesting itself in the modern world?

The folk epics of the Balkans, the Norse Sagas, the Greek epics etc. are older examples of it and I haven't seen any modern attempts aside from Tolkien's at creating such works.

I am aware as a Balkanoid that Gusle playing still exists today but amongst the youngest generation it is almost completely dead and 50 years from now most likely won't exist in any meaningful way.

Is there anymore out there still making such works?
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Chinese Literature any good?
Anyone read Three Kingdoms by Moss Roberts? Is it interesting? I was reading a little bit about it on wikipedia but I don't want to spoil too much. It starts out with Eunuchs being the bad guys which is pretty cool.
I'm just worried that it will have a cool badass good guy that is actually masculine and heroic only to utterly humiliated at the end, like other Chinese media (Hard Boiled, Hero). I mean if Mao and the CPC allowed this to be one of the 4 surviving classical lit, it's got to be pretty damn generic and inoffensive.
What are your thoughts 4chan?
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