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>A stage magician in an entertainment troupe makes his longtime tormentor, the strongman, disappear in a vanishing act. When he doesn't bring him back and no trace of him can be found, an inquiry begins, with the magician steadfastly refusing to reveal his secrets despite facing criminal prosecution. Told from the POV of a young protagonist who witnessed these evens and recounts the bizarre tale many years later.No titleIs this an actually good series worth reading?/wg/ Writing GeneralPrevious: >>24302339
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But good Lord, the degree to which our history has been outright censored, warped, and people held psychological captive by these fucking religions makes me want to pull my hair out.
Like, did you know that the Latin alphabet is a Semitic derived alphabet? The Phoenicians at Tyre and Byblos created a Semitic alphabet which the Greeks and Latins adopted, which changed from right to left to left to right and changed as people's own handwriting styles warped the letters. If you look at the Ancient Tuscan alphabet, you can literally see how the English alphabet derives from the Phoenician alphabet.
Why don't most people know this? Because the idea that Canaanite pagans helped lay the foundations of our culture goes against what "Der Berble" says, which is that we were all Monotheists worshiping Yahweh until we lost our way and degenerated with the Jews preserving civilization, until Western Europeans finally became civilized by the Jews.
You can't teach people about the alphabet because that means revealing that the modern Hebrew alphabet was invented in 150 BC, and that contradicts the idea that the Jews are some ancient primordial unchanging bastion of civilization that were there from the beginning.
I also can't stand how Christianity is an empty husk used to peddle dumbed down slave cattle versions of political ideologies. Like you might think the Nazis are evil, but they had logical arguments for their evil actions. Christian Anti-Semitism is so fucking retarded - blood libel, "We Wuz the Real Jews, Jews are Khazarian Edomites", "The Jews killed GOD!!!!! OMG!!! THEIR KIN IS CURSED", and to see how the entire religion shifted from being Jew worshippers into schizophrenic mental illness versions of Anti-Semitism shows its a religion that has no moral consistency at all.
So what value does Christianity provide? Absolutely god damn nothing but human social regression.No title>cyborgs are better than humans and nietzsche said whoever best shall win so we should side with cyborgs it's fucking unbelievable to me that to say this basic idea he had to write hundreds of pages of nonsense bullshit about the capital being sentient and future building the past and other bullshit.
it's not even a convincing idea. why should I side with what's better and not myself? what a travesty.Nobody here reads herThe only plausible reason this woman gets memed so much on this board is because she’s an antisemite. There is nothing else about her that could possibly appeal to /lit/A Fascist for Our Postliterate Age>What Bowden gives in what I have read and seen, more than his celebrated learning and oratory, is a kind of shallow and memeable erudition. Reading him is like spending an hour with someone who has ADHD as they click through Wikipedia pages, interspersed with some fascist invective about the “moral syphilis” of liberalism or the “Jewish desire for power.” It’s the false erudition of the overconfident undergraduate, which must be a powerful stimulant in the otherwise barren pastures of the far right. Plus, there’s an edginess to it — he’s talking openly about figures like Evola and Savitri Devi alongside Oswald Mosley. Ultimately, he’s a grim symptom of a postliterate society. - John Merrick
Is he right?
Article: https://jacobin.com/2025/03/jonathan-bowden-british-alt-rightNo titleAre there any books that explain why the Protestant colonial empires (Britain, and USA to an extent) have turned out so much better when compared to the Catholic colonial empires (Spain, France, Portugal)? >pic unrelatedJust, where are the pagans??Where are the druids of Gaul/France and Britannia? Where are the Nordic and Germanic priests? Where are the kahens of Egypt? Did Abrahamics completely wipe them out of existence in a way that not even a semblance of their beliefs and rituals survived? > Jews obsessively uphold and transfer their dogma to the new generation. They gather in Synagogues > Christians have a network and infrastructure supporting monks copying texts of the teachings of Christ and Christian philosophers throughout the ages. They gather in Churches. > Muslims have Makatib and Mullahs doing the same for Quran, Sira and Tafaseer. Gathering place are Mosques. Why Pagans didn't care enough to transfer their dogma to the new generations? Why are we finding out about them from the dusts of archeologists toils?
Now look at the sorry state of the so called non-Abrahamic ""religions"" aka paganism. Just where ARE they? Where are the pagan gods?No title>He said we were a bunch of Arabs coming in to blow up New York
old: >>24297012No titleWho's your favourite booktuber?you guys aightwe treat this place like shit, but honestly this board is the best literature discussion forum I've come across most of my friends barely read, and those who do only consume slop social media isn't any better. They won't pick up any of the classics except for the ocasional instagramable book - and all recommendations they give you are either some bland high-school level book or your average shitty pop release here, however, I feel like I'm among people who actually take pleasure in reading and challenging themselves through literature I've gotten great recs from this board, from the known classics to some slightly obscure ones I wouldn't have heard of otherwise not only that, you actually see discussion here, and even though it's a slow board, the level of conversation is not dwelling on the usual shitty media and retarded memes like on /tv/ and /mu/, for instance some guy just posted a print of a reddit thread discussing /lit/'s top 100 list, and you could see how butthurt and in denial they were about the fact that so many books considered "difficult" were in there, as if the list was made just for showing off it's like people can't see sincerity in reading actual literature but you guys do thank you for thatOne Scene a DayLet's read one scene of Shakespeare a day.
Since the anon who was originally doing these threads disappeared, I have taken over these threads. One act a day was clearly too much for you guys, so let's do one scene which is less committal. These works reward slow reading anyway.
And since nobody seemed too keen on following the previous OP's subjectively chosen order of plays, we'll vote on which plays to read. Let's consider Henry VI, Part I done, since that was already done in the first thread.
We'll start on Saturday, 24 hours from now.No titleBooks about this phenomenon?
The rise of NPCs, consoomers and anti-intellectualism of course.Horror ThreadPost horror novels, poems, stories, or non-fiction essays. >Whatever his limitations, Poe did that which no one else ever did or could have done; and to him we owe the modern horror-story in its final and perfected state.No titleAlright lads, the 2025 Spring Cup is upon us, and /lit/ F.C. still sucks. We need to determine which of our boys we are taking with us to the e/lit/es, and also to see what the intellectuals of /lit/ think about the current state of our club. The following link will be very useful if you have no idea what is going on here:
Suggestions made in this thread will also be considered, so go ahead and join us (but make sure to actually add your suggestion to the poll if you are suggesting a player).No titlenot perfect, but still quite good. im surprised I have almost never seen it discussed anywhere. i guess some people avoid it because it is anti-communist, while others ignore it because the author was a jew (albeit a self hating one who writes tangents on how he hates "jewishness")
the prose were often top tier, and there was tonnes of amazing imagery the plot was mostly great, though there was some things here and there I did not like/lwc/ Lit’s Short Story Writing CompetitionTheme Requirement * The struggle to preserve hope in a world that feels increasingly indifferent.
Character Requirement * A street performer who secretly believes their art has supernatural power.
(remember, the character requirement does not mean determine your narrator. This character just has to appear in your story in some meaningful way.)
You have until Monday 7th April 23:59 Greenwich Mean Time to post your submission.
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Good luck everyone!
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You do not have to give feedback to everyone, and you dont have to give feedback straight away - especially if you feel that might skew the results - but please do TRY to give meaningful feedback to TWO stories, so we put one story in and get two feedbacks out.No title>X does not Y, and Y does not XNo titleWhy has the true author of the Plays commonly attributed to Shak-sper of Stratford-upon-Avon been so ferociously covered up!!! How could an illiterate man who owned no books, who spoke no Latin, who never left England, knew nothing of the Elizabethan court write the plays attributed to Shak-sper. Lord Edward de Vere wrote these plays! Recognize and honor him, the greatest Dramatist of Western History!!!!No titleI’ve been really enjoying getting through Haruki Murakami’s oeuvre recently. You can all get mad and sputter about it./tradCath/ general>Laetare Sunday edition Welcome to Traditional Catholic General. Post favourite Catholic works, thoughts on doctrine, or anything tied to the one true Church, her philosophy, or her history.
Favourite saint's biography or Catholic-themed work? Let’s hear it.
Struggling with a theological question? Share your thoughts, and maybe some high IQ anon can answer (or at least has a relevant papal encyclical to drop).
Latin Mass enthusiasm, pre-Vatican II liturgical gems, or reflections on the one true Church of Catholic spirituality? Bring it here.
Liturgical Resources >https://extraordinaryform.org/ >"The Hours of the Divine Office in English and Latin" (a.k.a. the breviary) from 1961; this can be found on archive.org
Remember: this is not fedora bloodsports general. Nor is it the place for tired heresies like universalism.
Kantian holy text: https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Critique_of_Pure_Reason_(Meiklejohn)Saint Thomas AquinasWhat do you think of this lil nigga? I've been looking to get into Thomism, any tips? Should I read anyone first besides the greeks?How do I come up with my own original story?I have literally never been able to come up with an original story/world for myself. Everything I've ever made has been a fanfiction based on another property. Even when I was a kid, I could never come up with creative ideas. Even when I was really inspired? Nothing came to me. Even when I took walks and tried exercising, nothing. Am I just fucked or what? Because my only actually good characters or really anything original came from the most sheer luckNo titleHow's my writing?No titleMy friend is celebrating the birth of his son at his place in Cyprus next month. I am staying there for 2 weeks and I wanted to bring this book but my father told me it's not a good book to read on the beach and I should get something easier. Is that true? Is it tiring and difficult to read?No titleWoah...No titleword on the street is Knopf’s advance for Rayne Fisher-Quan’s hotly anticipated essay collection, COMPLEX FEMALE CHARACTER, was well within the $500k range… jfcNo titleHas the cancer of millennial writing taken over modern literature the way it has for comics, games, tv series and films?No titlewhy is joseph conrad's writing so tiresomeBook haulWhat do you think of my stack?The Decline Of The WestThis is a Oswald Spengler discussion thread, his books ideas and legacy is all for discussionNo titleWhat does he read? or rather what do unironic Neo-Nazis read?No titleWhy are Chuds so literary? The three greatest authors of the 20th century are all chuds.No titleWhen will the definitive book on computers, technology, and the internet be written? Do you consider this the gate to leap into 21st century thinking? I feel as though we are stuck in 20th century frameworks and are overdue for an update. This desynchronization is the source of mass psychosis exhibited by the masses by and large.AdbustersWhat does /lit/ think of this periodical? It’s a far-left publication best known for starting the Occupy Wall Street Movement, although they have come under fire regarding possible antisemitism
>In March 2004, Adbusters was accused of antisemitism after running an article titled "Why won't anyone say they are Jewish?" The article compiled a list of neoconservative supporters within the Bush administration and marked the names of those it believed to be Jewish with a black dot. It questioned why, given Israel's role, the political implications of this supposed Jewish neoconservative influence on U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East were not a subject of debate.[43][44]
>In October 2010, Shopper's Drug Mart pulled Adbusters off of its shelves[45] after a photo montage comparing the Gaza Strip to the Warsaw ghetto was featured in an article criticizing Israel's embargo of Gaza.[46] The Canadian Jewish Congress campaigned to have the magazine blacklisted from bookstores, accusing Adbusters of trivializing the Holocaust and of antisemitism.[47] In response, Adbusters argued that the charge of antisemitism was being used to silence what it considered legitimate criticism of Israeli policies.[48]No titleWhy did Silk fail? Did Kryspis set him up?We're under a brigade. ANy real \lit reader/writer knows this,Hi, Brigade faggots, you want to meet your maker? come at me, bro, Lets do... Socratic debate. here, and now. I proclaim? The holocaust, didn't happen. lets see how good your pilpul is. as I said... come at me, bro. bring it. I'll show you faggots, how its done. > lets see what you got... bitch boy. bring it on. leave the other threads alone, bring it to me. or... don't you faggots have the goddamn balls.No titleIs he based? (Julius Evola)No titleThe older I get, the more I wanna read stories written by women.
I just find violence and gore to be a bit boring.
And all male stories are just about solving everything with violence and killing the enemy.
It's like wow, isn't cool to solve everything with violence? Maybe we should do that IRL, and have then a country like latinoamerica or maybe europe in 1945.LOTRWhy is Sam Gamgee so servile to Frodo? This guy is like obsessed with pleasing Frodo to a ridiculous degree that it starts to irritate me. Am I just not getting something about the English class system? Sam starts as Frodo's gardener and becomes his slave as the book progresses.No titleWhat's the thickest book you own? Proportional to height and width, of course.No titleWhat killed your religious belief? I need to rid myself of the Arbahamic worldview, bros. How did our ancestors do it when it was at its height? I think it’s harder because Christianity does bring me peace also.No titleShould we face the harsh truths of existence head-on, or find solace in the comforting illusions offered by religion?No titlesome questions about parts 1 & 2:
-what is the significance of the young gaucho who loses the horse race? -what is the significance of the painter who cuts off his hand? -who did bolano have in mind for archimboldi?
-why did amalfitano hang up the geometry book on a clothesline? how did you interpret the diagrams of philosophers?No titleWhat's the best and worst book here?No title>In our commercial society, one may set one's price as high as one wishes, but to refuse to sell at any price is treason.Aristotle about young men learning philosophy (BRUTAL)[...] young men become geometricians and mathematicians and wise in matters like these, it is thought that a young man of practical wisdom cannot be found. The cause is that such wisdom is concerned not only with universal* but with particulars, which become familiar from experience, but a young man has no experience, for it is length of time that gives experience; indeed one might ask this question too, why a boy may become a mathematician, but not a philosopher or a physicist. Is it because the objects of mathematics exist by abstraction, while the first principles of these other subjects come from experience, and because young men have no conviction about the latter but merely use the proper language, while the essence of mathematical objects is plain enough to them.No titleThe Hider was right that philosophy needs to be unintelligible. Look what happens when philosophy becomes intelligible and these midwits are forced to speak plainly:
"[Meinong] argued, if you say that the golden mountain does not exist, it is obvious that there is something that you are saying does not exist -- namely the golden mountain; therefore the golden mountain must subsist in some shadowy Platonic world of being, for otherwise your statement that the golden mountain does not exist would have no meaning. I confess that, until I hit upon the theory of descriptions, this argument seemed to me convincing." -- Bertrand RussellWorth reading?What am I in for?What am I in for?Read, Expected, GotPost 'emNo titleHow do I write a webnovel in the style of a webcomic? I want to live a cool experiences daydreaming through the stories of my characters, but I can't draw for good. I guess the next best thing is a webnovel. Even then, there is a lot of visual and body information that is trivially conveyed through a webcomic that is not often put in writing, either because it clutters the text or because it is hard to translate into text./clg/ - Classical Languages GeneralArcadian edition
After this book, there's no real debate or question over what we have to do to change the world, only if we're brave enough to do it. Something I very much doubt we are, but at least we can't say we weren't told after this.Original poetry threadPlease do the needful and offer critiqueNEED chuddy recommendationsModern-day chuddy political books? Something about future civil war or ultra right-wing?No titlebooks of philosophy should come with a math test so you can't open them and read inside you fail the maths. that would prevent you retards from spouting off nonsenseJohn LockeQuite a revolutionary thinker for his time and still relevant today. I'm sick of hearing Zizek et al bag him for "tabula rasa" and Locke's supposed lack of innatism. This doesn't seem to be the case.No titleIs this still relevant if I want to improve my rhetoric? Or are there better books to read?No titleHow do you escape the cave?No titleWho is the best critic of Nietzsche? After i'm done reading his Genealogy and Morals and Twilight of Idols, I will want a rational escape from his nobles are da best, will to power isn't actually preservation cuz glasses add power, ubermensch creates values but not when priests do it. Collections of thoughts, because his rant at the end of Beyond Good and Evil which quickly followed his unsubstantiated rant on women where he just says "women cook stupidly" and doesn't elaborate are the cringiest most arbitrary and uninteresting facets of him.
I'd honestly prefer if there was another philosopher that made the radical criticism he did against democracy, philosophy, equality, science, causality, psychology etc. That he did...without the stupid overman bullshit. Because the latter bullshit is so stupid (especially when youtube philosophy channels indulge in it uncritically as if it's completely sane and coherent wherein it unironically starts to feel like i'm being fed talking points from a Ben Shapiro or Jordan Peterson esque figure that i'm just supposed to swallow because he's considered "so great" by a number of people) that it makes me doubt the veracity of his former interesting and valid points that he also...rarely bothers to justify, but atleast you can understand them with sufficient prior context of modernity and enlightenment philosophy.
But alas, Nietzsche seems unique in his radical criticism of seemingly everything we take for granted as "is" so instead I seek rational in-depth criticism of his entire philosophy. Even the parts I like. To deal with that doubt brought on by the parts I don't like.QUIZ — IN MEDIAS RES/wbg/ Worldbuilding GeneralCosmic Horrors, Eldritch Monsters, and Lovecraftian Madness Edition
Welcome to /Wbg/, the official thread for the discussion and development of fictional worlds and settings. Here is where you can share the details of your created worlds such as lore, factions, magic systems, ecosystems and more. You can also post maps for your settings, as well as any relevant art, either created by you or used as inspiration for your work. Please remember that dialogue is what keeps the thread alive, so don't be afraid of giving someone feedback!
FAQ: >What is worldbuilding? Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story. >"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?" Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project. >"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?" If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place. >"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?" Yes, of course you can! >"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?" Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.
Last Thread: >>24243497No titleITT: furfag literatureNo titleYou guys ever read Samuel Johnson's essays? They're a lot of fun. The Rambler, the Adventurer, and the Idler. All of them are collected on this website here:
In fact, I challenge /lit/ to go here, pick ONE essay at random, and read it. They're not very long at all, a single essay will probably take you no more than twenty minutes to read.No titleshould i read it?No title>go to the bookstore >there are attractive females at the bookstore >wonder which area at any give time with good-tinderable/approaches, if so will go to and approach and see and take her from her or will come close enough when possible/oppp and ask can buy you ice cream >look cute women and if not that, try getting a smile at first. if good approach and good tread lightly if ok (either or incase tredidly approach later and hope i meet girls as go along if I keep look cute/go where to where good at being seen and going over time ) - so i walk around trying be friendly towards a few female(if one look, maybe even have something with say and smile etc.) just see I might want one (mellow is great because she/they likely never saw it was makis and could maybe like the idea maksis-t) but at different locations maybe a smile when seen etc, with this all could change in few sec >mfwNo titleI'm a 30yo loser who missed every opportunity he had in life because I've been too much of a coward to make a move, whether with women, career, friendship, education, etc. I think I secretly enjoy the disappointed expressions on people faces every time I avoid something. But as you get older people gradually give up and stop taking an interest in you, and those opportunities become rarer until they finally disappear. I need new stimulants to get that feeling back, so.. What are some books that deal with Cowardice? Preferably from the POV of a character with that nature. The more degenerate and amoral the better. I hear Flashman is good? And just to be clear about the definition of the word: >Cowardice isn't just fear, it is the conscious refusal to act when action is requiredNo title>flat-headed, insipid, nauseating, illiterate charlatanNo titleWhy did Georges Bataille want to make a secret society with ritual human sacrifice?No titleWhat's the most unapologetic pro white books ever written? Tired of "white people le bad", i want something white affirming.No titleIs Rousseau the taproot of National Socialism/Bolshevism?No titleSo now that Catiline and Sulla have failed, what's next chapter for Western Civilization?No titleWhy don't we read their writers?No title>Has to go to a "writing group" to get motivated to write >Has a daily or weekly goal of so many words "500 words today" >Spent 4 years writing a novel with no plot in mind >Does "writing sprints" to get motivated to write
Why are people like this? Creators create because they have to. We don't need external motivation. A honeybee wakes up and HAS to make honey, it's what he lives for. It's all he knows in life.
And what is the point of so many words in a day? Write meaningful words, words that move your story along, not just mindlessly typing to try to check off a box. 10 meaningful words are more important than 500 words, just to get words on a page.I'm digitizing Harold Bloom's How to Read and WhyNothing major, just wanted to get more /lit/ and remembered this book from one of those meme charts way back. Was surprised that the only ebook version available is unreadable autoconvert crap.
There is a pdf online that's perfectly fine...but pdf. So I'm formatting the whole thing and will probably put it on libgen when I'm done.
Anyway this is the first time I'm ever editing or making an ebook, but so far it's just basic html. I'm using <p> instead of <br> for line breaks because I have much simpler control over all the various indents. Anybody here write their own epubs, any tips? I'm just using the calibre editor, tried sigil but the UI looks ugly.No title>erotica about a rapist turkey will sell better than anything you ever write Uhhhh, remind me why I shouldn't kms again?No titleWas Schopenhauer an esoteric Kantian?Ranking r/RomanceBooks flairsThe Bell JarWhat do you think about it? I recently read it, and it was fairly enjoyable. The style reminds me of TCITR. It has that same kind of honesty and monotony, where strong emotions are emphasised more indirectly, like in actions and hints and such, as opposed to being more directly stated/expressed. Though, I feel like narration in this book was even more downplayed than in TCITR. It's still understandable, but unusual, I'm not sure if I would count it as a flaw. The main character felt quite distant - like, I could understand that her problems were upsetting, but I really did not care about her.
What also tripped me up was the time jumps, but that may have been more on me (it's a common problem for me - when a book attempts something and I don't get it, I'm not sure if it's because it's poorly handled or because I'm just slow).
Overall, I'd say it's a pretty good book that probably becomes amazing if you relate to it. What do you think?No titleWhat was it about Wittgenstein that mind-broke Russell so hard and later enraptured so many analytics for so long? Everything I read about Wittgenstein makes him sound completely unbearable to be around, yet Russell seemed completely in awe of him the moment he read a single sentence of his work. I don't know how Russell and Moore restrained themselves from killing him. His insane behavior and arrogance just seemed off the charts. His condescending attitude towards Russell and Moore like laughing at them and claiming they will never understand his work immediately after defending it, his lack of crediting previous thinkers who he lifts from (for example, Moore had to follow university policy and ask Wittgenstein to credit other philosophers in one of his works and Wittgenstein treats it as if it's a huge offense from Moore to dare ask him to do such a thing), his unstable behavior like going over to Russell's residence in the middle of the night and having mental breakdowns while Russell tries to prevent him from committing suicide. Wittgenstein would later say that Russell's acknowledgement prevented him from killing himself. It's just so bizarre. It reminds me of people who suicide bait for attention and is rather abusive in a twisted way. Then Russell says in a letter that Wittgenstein's criticism of his philosophy left him feeling suicidal for months and then concluding that he can no longer do foundational work in philosophy. And if that's not enough, Russell wasn't even entirely sure what Wittgenstein's criticism even was! He just felt sure that Wittgenstein had seen something he had missed even though he says Wittgenstein was being inarticulate. Brand Blanshard writes about the strange reverence people put towards Wittgenstein when he was alive, and he didn't get it either. And I've seen some more contemporary analytic philosophers basically saying that Wittgenstein's work is confused and overrated. The two main movements in analytic philosophy his work inspired seem dead. It even seems to me that Russell has lately been getting more attention than Wittgenstein. Regardless of what you think of Russell's philosophy, I don't think there's denying that he was a smart man, so what was it about Wittgenstein that made him turn into a pile of jelly? I know it's a dumb rant, but their entire relationship just seemed so strange to me.No titleAny good books on converting to Judaism? I've heard that it's best to get an Orthodox conversion if you want to maximize acceptance as a convert. That still the case? I'm not 100% 'go' on the conversion, but it's something that for me over the years has gone from an amusing 4chan motif to a serious consideration. At the same time, the ethos I used to consider problematic has become more respectable to me in light of the abject cuckoldry of the Arab states and countries like Russia and China.No titleWhen you're reading a book, how much time do you take to visualize a scene? Honestly, I hardly take anytime to visualize the scene and mostly focus on what's going on. But I'm starting to wonder if this is kind of like skimming.Vocabulary SizePost 'em. https://my.vocabularysize.com/session/evstxxNo titleare there any good books yet that capture the essence of the failed to launch man?
a doom spelled out in a childhood defined by a lack of ambition or direction and a lifestyle consisting of not much more than videogames, never hitting developmental milestones of willpower or self confidence, and ever escalating anxiety, all culminating in meeting adulthood like deer in the headlights, and utterly folding catastrophically
the nearest thing to the feeling is the metamorphosis obviously, but that still doesn't really work since gregor was an actual respectable and functional guyNo titleI have to give a presentation at my political-philosophy seminar at Uni. I wanna talk about rights. Do you have any material that would be relevant to the subject or book recommendations ?No title>Enlightened ChudismNo title>Nietzsche's entire philosophical project can be summarized as having a temper tantrum against Schopenhauer hating Napoleon kekBloom on Dostoyevsky>....The genius of Dostoevsky faltered when it came to representing religion, which is the flaw of The Brothers Karamazov, since Dostoevsky's Russian Christianity was purely a disease of the intellect, a nationalistic virus, devoid of spiritual insight. Are we to be moved by Zosima's assertion, "Whoever does not believe in God is not going to believe in God's people"? That sounds uncomfortably like Southern Baptist conviction that Christ favors the Republican Party.... >Absorbing as Crime and Punishment is, it cannot be absolved of tendentiousness, which is Dostoevsky's invariable flaw. He is a partisan, whose fierce perspective is always explicit in what he writes. His design upon us is to raise us, like Lazarus, from our own nihilism and skepticism, and then convert us to Orthodoxy. Writers as eminent as Chekhov and Nabokov have been unable to abide him; to them he was scarcely an artist, but a shrill would-be prophet. I myself, with each rereading, find Crime and Punishment an ordeal, dreadfully powerful but somewhat pernicious, almost as though it were Macbeth composed by Macbeth himself. Is he right?Any dystopian world esc books like 1984, brave new world etc etcWhile the political messages are obvious too me what I was really interested in when reading 1984 was just the world I had built in my head. I liked the story of an everyman living through a....ahem "society" And I thought it was cool watching people get gunned down on a giant communal TV theater. Military society.
Or anything apocalyptic also, like 451..the nuke was cool.... Anything that gives off this image
Sorry I have school level knowledge of books but I would enjoy some nice readsNo titleHello /lit/, are there any good books that offer universal advice on dating? Such as how to make a good first impression on the other person or maybe presenting ideas for the dates etc.No titleWere Nietzsche's criticisms of Schopenhauer's pessimism ill-founded, or did they have a degree of truth?No title>the written word was invented so that intellectual schizos could do magic (*scam their way out of manual labor*) and after all this time, nothing ever changes.No title>tfw "philosophy tube" is just tranniesNo title>the first movie was garbage, but the sequel was somehow a masterpieceNo titleWhy aren't you learning another language right now? Wouldn't you like to be able to read the russian classics in their original language? Or Kant in German? Or Proust in French? Or Italian literature? Or Japanese literature?
And etc.No titleAnyone read them? Are they good historical novels?No titleWhat makes this book so great and controversial?Embracing the weirdHow did America's (and by proxy the rest of the west) embrace of its fringes, weirdoes, and eccentrics by the largest strands of its society from the 90s onwards reflect in the world of literature? What I mean is, there's a clear point in time from the advent of Gen Xers and the media's focus on their sensibilities where it was no longer taboo to be ''strange'' and be attracted to odd things in general, in contrast to the previous generations' hardline delineation between what was truly American and what wasn't. It was the post-hippie comedown I guess. Things like Primus, Ween, Robert Crumb, Beavis and Butthead, Ren & Stimpy, Tom Green..etc were all the rage with the masses in spite of their oddities, which I think was pretty much unheard of in the history of all civilizations, where the chaotic and unorganized intellectual forces were leading the charge. Nevermind all the tech and drug related stuff that was pushing the limits of reality. The lines of, for example, Disgust were utterly shattered. Artists were now expected to act odd. It later on became part of the grander performance, but that's another topic altogether. I'm curious as to how all of this has echoes across literature, back when it was still a somewhat relevant medium. As well as which authors and books delved into this subject. I know that previously underground-only names like Burroughs or Pynch became accepted as part of the canon around that time, but how far does this thing really go? Why would this be relevant to non-Americans at all? Well for starters, it was and still is the main cultural factory for the hyperconnected modern world. And perhaps most of all, I don't know of any other society that went through a similar process. I am not very well educated on the topic however, so I very well may be off-base here. Pic related sums up the spirit of the times quite well. It unironically was a revolution of moeurs and values.No titleWhat would be the christian equivalent of this?No titleWhere do I go from here?The Master and MargaritaThoughts on this contentious Stalin-era classic?/lwc/ Writing Competition ONE DAY NOTICEIt's been a long month. Hope everyone's ready for the next competition.
Tomorrow the prompt will be released. A random Theme and Character Requirement will be generated. We will then spend the weekend writing and this month the submission will close 23:59 GMT MONDAY
What's different: I will create a new thread tomorrow morning and release the prompt around 10am GMT
I will not use this thread as I have done in the past. I will create a NEW THREAD at 10:00 GMT with the prompt.
Submissions will require trips. voting is through strawpoll. It's a well oiled system.
So come and write and see if you put something better out into this world so thick with slopNo titleI wish to learn about the origin of Christianity and its relation to contemporary beliefs. What are some good scholary books on the subject?Louis-Ferdinand CelineHave you read War? It was unpublished in English until recently. I ordered a copy. I've been reading his main works and love him. He's so funny.No titleITT: Writers being shitty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Foster_Wallace#Abuse_allegationsNo title>write something >read what I've just written >find out it's the most retarded shit ever writtenNo titleWhy was he forgotten?Monkey business - Journey to the West>Is China a monkey country? >Is there a good audio rendition of journey to the west? >Is genderbent sun wukong sexo? Yes, as they literally laugh at you for falling to their scams I found the overly sarcastic productions series entertaining YesAristophanesWhat’re the best translations of his surviving eleven plays: Acharnians, Knights, Clouds, Wasps, Peace, Birds, Lysistrata, Women at the Thesmophoria, Frogs, Assemblywomen, and Wealth? Preferably a translation that prioritizes accuracy and has good footnotes but I’m open to others.No titleMisunderstood masterpiece./History/Post any good history books.
Are there any new or upcoming book releases you're especially looking forward to reading?
>John Ferling’s Shots Heard Round the World: America, Britain, and Europe in the Revolutionary War
>In April 1775, British troops marched to Lexington, where an armed group of Yankees awaited them. Despite an order to disperse, shots rang out. Militiamen were killed. The British continued marching, only to find even greater trouble in Concord and all the way down the road back to Boston. The Revolutionary War had begun.
>Ferling highlights underestimated pivotal moments to reveal why the British should have put down the rebellion within a couple years of fighting. As European rivals France, Spain, and the Dutch Republic entered the fray, Britain's problems grew, but after seven long years, the war's outcome remained very much in doubt. Ferling assesses military and civilian leaders, the choices they faced, and the political, tactical, and strategic decisions they made as the war raged in North America, the Caribbean, Central America, Europe, Asia, and on the high seas, affecting peoples and countries miles from American soil.
Previous Thread: >>24254479No title>4.4 stars with 3000 ratings Why is there so much posturing on this site? I don't care how marxist you are, there is no excuse for rating a thousand pages of quotes and le I'm so deep proverbs on le capitalism so high.No titleHas /lit/ taken the Anglopill?
Peasants vs. capitalistic farmers: - The peasant "owner" cannot legally sell family land without permission of children - A peasant must divide land equally between children; there is no real last will and testament - Peasants marry young, have children young, and use the children for farm work - Multiple generations live in the same household - Poor subsistence farmers
Capitalistic farmers: - A living man has no heirs and can buy and sell land freely - An Englishman was free to give his children as much or as little as he wanted, meaning they were at risk of being disinherited if they disappointed him, but land must never be divided; it has to go to only one heir - Englishmen married late and hired labor instead of using their own children for work; this led to a cash economy - The nuclear family was the norm as far back as records go - Rich market traders
tl;dr: > The English have never been peasants as far as records can reliably show, going back as far as ~1250, according to "The Origins of English Individualism"Fungi In LiteratureWhat are some works of fiction in which fungi are prominently featured?No titleWhat's the book of the Bible that made you abandon religion?Share little parts of books you're reading that you want to share but don't have an excuseFrom 'The Forgotten 500,' about U.S. pilots who bailed out over Yugoslavia in WWII. Orsini was 21 years old and this was the result of his first mission. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEjLoHdbVeENo titlelittle drunk. banged this peace of shit out. what do my lit brothers think?No titleWhy does a reality of pure bliss and unceasing pleasure seem odious to so many people?No titlecan you into horror, anon? in what format, and what sub-genre do you write?No title>Sick reference bro. Your references are out of control everyone knows that.No titleIs it true that Hitler read an early edition of this book prior to his rise to power?No title/lit/ screencap thread?No titleI miss her so muchThe Brothers KaramazovWhy do people say this is a christian book? >alyosha fails at everything, wanted to prevent his father getting killed? failed. wanted to save ivan from mental breakdown? failed. wanted to save his brother from getting sent to prison? failed. wanted to marry the yandere girl? failed. wanted father zosima to be remembered as a saint? failed.
Also, he was clearly going to be a sinner in the sequelnew poemIt's Friday, new fragment is up. This is the beginning of the metaphysical investigation of blood, and it's only right we begin with sex. >https://hyperionverus.substack.com/p/fragment-bloodnymphNo titleHow the fuck could filth like this get published?Kazuo Ishiguro: The buried GiantJust marathoned it. What a drag. How did this book get nobel prize?No titleWhy does he say in Book of Law to read it only once? Is it to not have believers be too rigid when it comes to it? As in you only get one take on it, and that interpretation is what stays with you during future studies.HomerWhich is the better translation of the Iliad and Odyssey, Lattimore or the revised Murray editions from Loeb? I want the Greek text and notes, but I never actually hear Murray (either his original or the revised versions from the 90s) come up in Homer translation discussions: it's only ever Lattimore, Fitzgerald, and Fagles. I already own Fagles's editions as casual reading copies but want something more literal and scholarly.No titlehow do they expect me to take this guy seriously? when his whole motivation is "I WANNA HAVE GAY SEX NOW, I WANNA HAVE GAY SEX NOW, I WANNA HAVE GAY SEX NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!"No titlegotta admit i feel motivated listening to him talkGraphic Classics Storytime Part VIIIAfrican-American Classics https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24269300 H.G. Wells https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24271508 Oscar Wilde https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24274166 Jack London >>24286444 Robert Louis Stevenson >>24289109 Rafael Sabatini >>24301495 O. Henry >>24304090No titleNo stack thread? Let's fuckin fix that.No title>Atwood says a character's name was donated by the Medical Foundation for the Care of Victims of Torture >she has that character get kidnapped, tortured, and gang-raped lmao what the fuckNo titlehave an idea for a story but not sure if the concept is very good. wanted to share it's a reimagining of the whole "protagonist is prophesied to defeat a great evil" trope. i want to write a protag that's arguably worse than the villain she's destined to defeat. the villain would be your stereotypical evil baddie bent on world domination, but the protagonist isn't all "actually i want to take over the world." she's takes the appearance of a friendly, kind person who's always there for her friends, but deep down her motivations are purely based on manipulation. she doesn't want world domination, but she just has too much fun fucking with people and taking advantage of that and sees the villain as a threat to all her fun. so, she ends up manipulating the villain without him knowing for her own amusement. she's always in a battle to keep control over the villain so she can keep him around as essentially a personal lolcow. she also heavily orchestrates almost every direct encounter she has with the villain so no matter what, she's seen by everyone as the hero while making him look even worse than he is so nobody questions her. the prophecy never changes, she just orchestrates everything to carefully match the prophecy so she can look like a great, amazing hero to the rest of the world and keep her grip on the people around her. thoughts? any potential here?ExcerptOrder is the final and most powerful aspect of Chaos. It is the chaos that is proclaimed perfect and complete, and worshipped. It is the repeated promise of Padomay that Order couldn't even Become without Chaos. Anuic apostolary history is a history of worshipping Perfection. As the meaning of the word, as its total. Epistemological abstractions of perfection are verified by math, which tells of it after solving "I absolutely do not understand the scale this goes down to, or up to. How big we are and how small the world can be, it is immeasurable. How small we are, how big the world can be, it is immeasurable." That is why in Order there is always an immeasurable perfection to strive for. War is Peace, if it is Perfect enough.
Still, all of these stand as from as soon time began. What is more interesting is the Lorkhanic element - has there been a spirit greater than us but still within our Godhead to conceive us? That is quite plausible but we simply do not know. Nevertheless, it is one of the most powerful ideals. That is precisely why I have attained the Heart of Lorkhan and grasped it - I am making New Man from the Last. Whether the Godhead displayed these ambitions through only Us or some "spirit" before us is irrelevant. Because all that matters is what is going on within our plane, it is the Mundus, the Arena in the heat of all our known battle. All other spiritual entities are seeds of meditation, wishing to teach - the exception being the Godhead whose energy we are made up of, the exception being the totality we live in.
In gross-boring artificiality, you trade symbols of representation as value itself. You have forgotten that Capital also often, and frequently, produces scams. That is in its nature, as it only sees surplus value. You must remember the capital can only be resource. Gold was not money, it was resource. Given to us by The Perfection saying "Look at this material so immeasurably beautiful. Make it the crux of your trade."
In Revelation, you are given responsibility from God that once you see Real Perfection once, you are to hold onto it always. It is your duty as a man to hold on to what is most sacred. Because it is Real Perfection, it has uncountable aspects, all immeasurably perfect. Moreso than only taking a symbol of Perfection dear - you should emanate and spread that Perfection, as you see it possible, everywhere, through the Godhead's Holy Spirit which tells of, enacts and recognizes Divine Order.
The Perfection is in the Secret Syllable. It is uncomputable. It is when a curve is so Perfect for the I to behold. Worship Perfection. Perfection is Perfect, so any disturbance renders it imperfection, since it was Perfect just like that. In the legislature of Man, the onus on Law is to describe and instill Perfection. The Perfect society. In uncivilized societies, there are disturbances, which strictly disinhibit Perfection, un-enabling it to manifest. Those who cannot handle Perfection, fear it.
