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"/lit/ - Literature" is 4chan's board for the discussion of books, authors, and literature.

Welcome to /lit/
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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

Looking for books online? Check here:
Guide to #bookz
https://www.geocities.ws/prissy_90/Media/Texts/BookzHelp19kb.htm
Bookzz
http://b-ok.cc/
http://libgen.rs/
Recommended Literature
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading
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Esoteric Hitlerism Thread

This thread is for the pursuit of knowledge and the pursuit of Esoteric Hitlerism and its literary works.
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I have some questions and thoughts regarding Christianity. My questions are mostly for Protestants and Eastern Orthodox. I'm not really interested in Roman Catholicism but I guess if they want to chime in that's ok.
I am not Orthodox but lately I have been looking into Orthodoxy and I've found that their faith seems much more real to them in a way. Now let me explain. I'm not implying that all protestants are fake and don't really believe. That's not what I mean. I grew up Baptist and I know many Baptists and evangelicals who are sincere believers.
But what I mean is that the Orthodox seem to have way more spiritual things happening in their daily life. For example I just read of an Orthodox monk who talked about an experience he had where the devil appeared to him in the form of a woman, attempting to seduce him, but the monk prayed, and by God's power, the devil was sent flying away over the hill and exploded.
I have read many accounts like this. For the Orthodox, spirituality is a real thing happening in their life and in the physical world around them.
For protestants, it's not really like that. These sorts of spiritual events are very rare. I have heard of a Baptist pastor who did an exorcism on a possessed man once. But in general really it seems like the protestant outlook on the world more secular and sort of non-spiritual in way, except they still believe in God. It seems to be more beliefs in their head, but not really actually a part of life and the world around them. Do you know what I mean, and also why is this
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Post an album get a book recommendation
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>finally read the Bible
>Jesus isn’t predicted at all
>TFW reading them back to back makes him look like an unironic false prophet and crazy person
What the fuck?
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I'm dying of a degenerative brain disease. Weeks maybe. What's the book you should read if you had only a few weeks to live.
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How does one get into reading poetry? Should I pick a few poets and then search for their best poems? Or are these poems gathered in books which I should thoroughly read?
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/wg/ Writing General
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"Old Lady Nipples" Edition

Previous: >>22512809

/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQ
RESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvC

Please limit excerpts to one post.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.
If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.
Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.

Simple guides on writing:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdzv1NfZRM
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whPnobbck9s
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAKcbvioxFk

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/lit/ learns about religion
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Because it has proven less than fruitful to do reading groups on other subjects, I am going to try to do a reading group on religion, starting with the big three and maybe expanding later

The first three slated books are Jewish Literacy; The Complete Idiot's Guide to Understanding Islam; and Mere Christianity. I selected these books based on three factors: an approach presuming zero knowledge of the subject by the reader, the books were actually written by adherents of the respective faiths, and the books seek to avoid a specific sect, since it is obviously too time consuming to read a book for each sect of each faith. This doesn't mean these books are unbiased. Expect for example the Jewish book to give a very one-sided perspective on Zionism, and the chapter on Israel in the Muslim book to come from the exact opposite perspective.

If you are in, let me know. The reading for this week is Jewish Literacy up until the section on Exodus, which can be the next reading if there is interest

For discussion in between threads, there is the /lit/ poetry discord:https://discord.com/invite/2UvwjZyvBx
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>new ways bad
>old ways good
Why is British literature obsessed with this theme?
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Which ereader should I buy?
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Its /fall/ bros
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With the passing of the autumn equinox, the Northern hemisphere have officially entered the most literary season
Post your fall reading list, favourite autumn reads, and general comfy fall lit activities
The more comfy the better
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Is it dishonest to write about love and romance if the writer has never experienced it himself?
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Why do people emphasize being well-read as opposed to well-thought? Surely one can read a hundred books and get lots of information, but how much of that translates into integrated and practical knowledge? Why not emphasize critical thinking, where books are merely a platform for inquiry?
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Is this supposed to read like a continuous fever dream?
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I don't get it.
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It's Autumn, /lit/.

Share Fall-related poetry and prose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwn6Xaz_uLM&t=23s
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Name your favorite non-white female author
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>We have taken a great pledge: Either Europe will belong to us – the purified, hardened in itself, Germanic stamped Europe – or we will disappear from the stage of world history
What did Eggers mean when he wrote this?
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This board went from traditional right wing philosophy to nietzscheanism real quick
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Debunking Salafism
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What are the philosophical origins of Salafism and how does one debunk it using proper logic and alternative (but viable) interpretations of Quran and Hadith texts? I know that it arose as a reactionary movement to Sufism, which was the standard Islamic tradition for centuries, and that it's supposedly based on a single Hadith of Muhammad claiming the first three generation of Muslims being the pious models of thought and living. The logic by which it operates seems fairly flawless on a first glance.
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Anyone else has a burning hatred for conservative thinking?
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I can't stand conservatives, I cringe at their thoughts and terminology.
I hate how they think and how they even describe themselves as "degenerates" for doing something otherwise mundane.
the conservative/liberal brain is real, any good books on this topic?
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ITT: Ying and Yang book combo's
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Kindle deleted all my pirated books
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Accidentally pressed Yes on a prompt asking me to turn on wi-fi and all my books are gone now. I used Calibre to send the books to my kindle, and somehow, I still see the autors in the folder but the books are gone, folders are empty.
Now I need to download everything again I guess, but I can't find most of the stuff anymore since b-ok was taken down, and z-lib doesn't have most of them or at least the versions I wanted. What the fuck do I do?
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/cathlit/ - Catholic Literature General
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https://www.vatican.va/latin/latin_index.html - Vatican site

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/ - Catholic News Site

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/4chanlit/images/d/d7/19-06-36-14727334993410.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20181124135713 - Catholic Literature Chart
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Humeo-Nietzschean Christianity
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Just a friendly reminded that Hume and Nietzsche are actually the two most Christians that ever Christianed outside of Jesus himself, and that you will understand the nature of faith and pietism better through them than through some typical theologian. Picrel because he realized that was true with Hume. If Nietzsche is too much for you to bear, Kierkegaard is good as a preparatory.
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Has anyone ever been asked to read anyone's writing before? If so how was it? Did they respond well to your criticisms or were they butthurt and miserable at your comments?

I'll start: in college a girl I knew asked me to read the first few excerpts of her novel. It was typical YA slop about a spoilt rich girl living in LA (we lived in some shitty UK town and she'd never visted LA) who the audience was meant to feel sorry for. Shallow and terribly written. I didn't tell her my honest opinion, which was overly negative, because to be honest this was around the same time shallow Wattpad fiction was blowing up. She probably could've got a shitty Netflix deal if she kept up with it. There was also a more recent example: this insane girl I knew in East London who had just been released from a psyche ward asked me to edit her book. She was an eccentric character and was genuinely insane. Also pretty hot in a smelly hippie way. I said I'd read it but it was a fairly basic fantasy premise. Nothing interesting, which was a shame because I went in expecting some schizo fantasy smut. I told her I couldn't edit it as I wasn't a big enough fan of fantasy.
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AI needs to study this place
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We have to run a scraper off /lit/ for like a month and figure out what % of posts are bots, I swear, the topics are all 90% of the same and repeated over and over and over.
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Best sentence you've ever written. (And other anons critique). Go!
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Train Lit
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looking for great train related reading. fiction or non fiction, give me all your best recs. thank you in advance. making a movie based on a train
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>After the death of his wife Helen, C.S. Lewis wrote reflections which were collected into A Grief Observed.
>"If [Helen]. 'is not,' then she never was. I mistook a cloud of atoms for a person. There aren't, and never were, any people. Death only reveals the vacuity that was always there. What we call the living are simply those who have not yet been unmasked. All equally bankrupt, but some not yet declared."
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Best narrative works of non-fiction
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/Unreal/ Press call for submissions
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Greetings /lit/
Unreal Press, here to officially announce the release of Tales of the Unreal Issue No. 2, long awaited follow-up to our most popular release yet, it is available on amazon for those who want the physical copy but the pdf is available for free on our soobstack page along with the first issue https://unrealpress.substack.com/

We'd now like to make a call for the next edition, this time we are looking for stories which pay homage to the pulp and golden age of science-fiction writing, looking for stories between 2.5 - 5k in wordcount (give or take), please either send to [email protected] or join the /wg/ discord server (https://discord.gg/CYWnVHGx) and @ one of the editors
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Will this book help cure my racism?
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Why aren't you READING Wagner?
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His writings have had an enormous influence on Western art and thought, from Baudelaire to Nietzsche, Mallarme, Weininger, Joyce, Schmitt, Heidegger, Adorno, Lévi-Strauss etc.

>I know of no writing on the arts that sheds so much light on the subject as Wagner’s. Whatever can be learned about the genesis of a work of art is to be found here. It is one of the very greatest of minds that we encounter in these pages, and over the years he has been constantly refining his theories, stating his views with ever greater freedom and clarity.
- Nietzsche

Recommended reading order is to start with The Music of the Future, written by Wagner as an introduction to his ideas, then the three 'big' writings from his late period, German Art and German Politics, Beethoven and Actors and Singers. And before Actors and Singers a small but essential lecture entitled The Destiny of Opera. These are the ultimate expression of his ideas and do much to clarify and build upon what are his three most important writings, as named by himself, Art and Revolution, The Artwork of the Future and Opera and Drama. They were the first time Wagner unhesitatingly stepped into his own direction. Though Rash and confusing at points, they are the centre of his thought and should be read in exegesis with the named later works. Other writings, of a secondary importance, include Judaism in Music, Some Explanations Concerning "Judaism in Music", A Communication to my Friends, What is German?, On Conducting, On Poetry and Composition, On Operatic Poetry and Composition, On the Application of Music to the Drama, Against Vivisection, Religion and Art and Know Thyself.
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are any of these books any good if you're not a 14 year old boy?
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I've finished Judges and I'm a bit burned out to be honest. Should I take a break or just power through it? I'm not going to skip around so don't even suggest that, I said to myself I'll read it cover to cover.
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I really enjoyed this book. It's weird it isn't mentioned often when discussing long novels that are essential reading (moby dick, infinite jest,count of monte cristo, etc.)
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Plato in One Blow
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A material object exists regardless of whether or not it is observed. It persists when unobserved, can be observed by two or more people in the absence of another, ect.

A platonic form has no material substance, it exists only as an abstraction in the mind. An idea or abstraction can not directly effect the material world. Therefore a material objects form can not be predicated upon a platonic ideal.

It was all nonsense. From the very beginning..
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My essay for school
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Once upon a time, there was a person. They did things, like, um, stuff. One day, they went outside, and, like, the sky was blue or something. They saw, like, a tree, and it was, you know, green.

So, this person, like, walked around and saw other people. Those people talked, and, like, the words they said went into the person's ears. Some of the words were hard to understand, but, like, whatever.

Then, something happened, I think. Maybe it was important? Anyway, the person did something about it. Yeah, they, like, solved the thing and felt good or something.
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This book was terrible. There was no spying and it wasn't thrilling. It read like a liberals wet dream about muh poor muslims. There were a ridiculous number of loose ends never brought up again after being mentioned and so much garbage fluff. Thanks for telling me about every characters sexual exploits and affairs. If this is what the spy/thriller genre is like I won't be going any further. Absolutely terrible book in every conceivable way and I would not recommend it to anyone.
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What are your favorite horror stories?
I recently published my first novel.
Stephen King's pet sematary is probably my favorite.
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Why should I read Deleuze?
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Thoughts on Ken Wilber? Yay or nay?
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What next?
+ the plague by camu
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I know there are websites dedicated to posting fan-fics. But Does anyone know of any sites/forums where I can share my novel for free with people chapter-by-chapter?

It's finished, I just want to share it with people.
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Suppose you were Shakespeare and wanted to write plays - or even novels - today, and needed to look for tragic or comedic plots as sources for your writing, what books/movies/short stories/legends/folklore collections would you use? Take in mind that any plot or story you choose need to offer great opportunities for dialogue scenes: you need to have the characters talking to each other a great deal of time.

Remember that very famous and central movies or stories, like The Godfather or Breaking Bad or The Grand Budapest Hotel cannot be used because they are already very famous and everyone knows them.

With that in mind, what movies/novels/short stories do you know that are, in themselves, mediocre or of little value, or simply practically unknown, but that, if reworked by Shakespeare, could yield great works?
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/wbclg/ - Worldbuilding and Conlang General #01
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Genesis Edition

Welcome to /wbclg/, the official thread for the discussion and development of fictional worlds and languages.
Here is where you can share the details of your created worlds (such as lore, factions, magic systems and ecosystems) or Constructed Languages. You can also post maps for your settings, as well as any relevant art (either created by you or used as inspiration for your work) which ilutrate your ideas. Please remember that dialogue is what keeps the thread alive, so don't be afraid of giving someone feedback!

FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>What is a conlanging?
Conlanging is the creation of constructed languages or "conlangs" for various purposes, from creating new means of communication between people, to use as part of a fictional setting. Some people may also make constructed languages as a hobby.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/. We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.
>"How autistic do you have to be to like doing this?"
Fuck off. Both worldbuilding and conlanging are interesting hobbies in their own right. Let people enjoy things.
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>last book you read
>book you are reading now
>book you will read next
>something good about yourself
>something about yourself that you need to improve

Bonus points for elaboration
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>everyone who wishes for an afterlife, that the flesh is sinful, etc. is just coping because if they valued power as they should, then they would be depressed because they are weak, so they choose the easy option to keep their self-esteem in tact through the inversion of values
how do you even argue against this without sounding pathetic
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oh you like books?
Name 10 books.
1 book per author.
Looking it up is proof you need to stop pretending you like literature.
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/clg/ - Classical Languages General
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Hippocratic edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>22462548

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

Feel free to write your thoughts/stories/etc... in your target language.

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko
You are very welcome to suggest additions/changes/etc... especially for other classical languages
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ITT we react as if Horror’s Call by F Gardner is receiving a Netflix series treatment
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The Old and the New Testament for Aryan Mankind
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CHINESE VS JAPANESE LITERATURE
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Ill be learning one of these languages, convince me which one should i pick. Which one has best literature?
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/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General
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Winter Edition

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/guIyhAzS
>Archive
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg
>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

Previous: >>22508114
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Picrel of the night Jacques Maritain was conceived.
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Well read list
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According to this guy you're well read if you've read these

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/may/12/book-clinic-what-constitutes-well-read
>from the classics of Greece and Rome: Homer, Plato, Aeschylus, Aristophanes, Euripides, Virgil, Plutarch, Ovid, Juvenal and Sappho…

Next, from the Anglo-American literary tradition, we can’t forget Shakespeare, Milton, Donne, Byron, Austen, Keats, Dickens, Twain, Thoreau, Dickinson, Hawthorne, Melville, Whitman, Eliot, Pound, Auden, Fitzgerald, Hemingway, Spark, Beckett, Woolf… and certainly another score of contemporary greats, including Baldwin, Pinter, Morrison, Miller, Bellow and Naipaul.
>Proust, Freud, Fanon and Bulgakov to Grass, Márquez, Kundera and Levi

Well I've read 37, how many have you read /lit/ ?
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Book
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reserve/process, what do you think is closer to the truth? real Cratylus hours

"irritability though, expresses organic activity" - Hegel
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Post good writing advice from authors.
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Boston Massacre
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What is the best history book about the Boston Massacre?

https://www.americanhistorycentral.com/entries/boston-massacre
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Admit it. Black Skin White Masks filtered you.
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What I'm in for?
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A book that you could love only if you were Mexican or an English Lit major:

part 1:
>400 pages of a Calvino ripoff
>great another story about fantasy academic protagonists who have unrealistic sums of money and care way too much about books
>after 350 pages of nothing happening the wheelchair bound self insert gets the girl

part 2-4
>infinite jest but mexican

part 5:
>life? sex? death? writing? semblance? blah blah blah blah
>SEX SEX SEX PENIS PENIS
>hey man can I rent your typewriter?
>sure but first let me yell at you about writing for 10 minutes because that's something that people do


if Bolaño had committed to nazi vampires this could have been extremely based
instead we get 850 tedious pages of nothing (not counting the unceasing monotonous descriptions of murdered women which I started skipping after the 20th time)
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With things like "occultism" and "spirituality" becoming more commonplace as the older established religions are rotting away, i find it very difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff. There is just too much bullshit and fraud going around. I started reading Guenon, and while i feel that he is critical enough of the empty spiritualism of his time, i cannot really find any good contemporary writers who took his torch.

What are some good follow-up writers after Guenon? I heard Aleister Crowley considered Guenon a kindred spirit (albeit a "black brother"), but that's it.
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Interviews and and the like
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Rainy Sunday watching/reading/listening to interviews and seeing what writers have to say on writing. Pic maybe related? Random image roulette, will it be worksafe?

Paul Bowles
https://youtu.be/2_SDL9Mf4Ks An American in Tangier
https://youtu.be/U27N_icl36g The Complete Outsider
William Gaddis
https://youtu.be/e3Czd7GwNy4 A Conversation With William Gaddis
William Gass
https://youtu.be/RLlYVszUMpM William Gass with Michael Silverblatt
https://archive.org/details/podcast_mark-seinfelt-mark-seinfelt_word-patriots-william-gass-r_1000112178657 Remembering Stanley Elkin
Nicholson Baker
https://youtu.be/q-w_VAy_RuE Delighting in the Details
https://charlierose.com/video/player/15179
Italo Calvino
https://youtu.be/w2UUhi3vs7g
Gore Vidal
https://youtu.be/zgSQaTqSZ20 Dick Cavvet interview
https://youtu.be/Nd3hGhv861Q On Calvino
Norman Mailer and Gunter Grass
https://www.c-span.org/video/?199785-1/gunter-grass-norman-mailer-interview
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how do i get into reading
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im a /mu/fag and my attention spam is not very high (not very low neither) because music gives you these constant stimuli of something playing, even if its very slow and quiet.
when i try and read a book some tune comes to my mind and i immediatly focus on the tune and stop reading for a few seconds, and when i get back to reading i already forgot what just happened in the plot
is there anything i can do?
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>read a book
>character has sex
>can no longer relate to the character
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what was the book that crack the capitalist shell for you
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Critique of Pure Reason
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Does picrel accurately describe Kant's transcendental aesthetic?
Anything I should change?
No braindead bots ITT please.
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Poetry Thread
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Post some poetry, either something you're reading, writing, or planning.
I'll start:
>Flower Power Devoured and Soured
The gavel descends like a hammered clip,
Upturned, the flower's petals squeeze the trigger
There's not a mourning candle flick'ring now for hippies,
O Western Man, thou shouldst ne'er have loved a nigger!
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Help me find the PDF of a book,pls
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Hi bros, I`m trying to find this book, cant find anywhere, could you guys help? It's very expensive, + than 1000 USD.
"Spitz and Fisher's Medicolegal Investigation of Death: Guidelines for the Application of Pathology to Crime Investigation"
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return to orthodoxy, stop being a schismatic "catholic"
different types of procession exist
honorary titles for the roman pontiff is not the same as supremacy.
just because u see filioque in the western or greek fathers doesnt mean they believed in double hypostatic procession.

He is the first among equals, EQUALS!!!
im not even saying this as a convertodox cyberdox retard with all the dark age edits or whatever, genuinely coming from a sincere ex-tradcath that understands the discomfort of SSPX-lovers or traditional catholicism in general.

it aint to late bros, come on back.
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bro, this book is sick
I can understand skyrim lore now
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I’m writing a fictional essay meant to have been written by Karl Marx. How can I best emulate his snarky style? What are some signature phrases he uses?
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What would he have thought of the movies?
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Teenage Agnst
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I’m 4 chapters into this. Tell me it gets better. I’m not reading the whole think if it’s some edgy emo crap about a bunch of gay teens doing drugs. There’s nothing captivating about that.

I’m a 30 year old MAN. I can’t relate to this shit anymore
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Recommend me the best war memoirs you've read
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>Chapter 1
>He awoke early that morning. Still drowsy, he sat up, blinking im the soft morning light.
Holy fucking dropped.
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Recommend books which train spies to not give out information during torture. They should be better for the spirit than self-help goyslop.
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Is this some inscrutable leftoid theorycel navelgazery or does it actually have something substantial to say
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I want to read about magic
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The real world stuff. What are the best authors/books for this? beginner level if possible.
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How to read Shakespeare?
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Read Merchant of Venice and loved it, now I want to read more of Shakespeare; planning to follow this chart somewhat, but I don’t know which versions to buy, I don’t mind separately or a collection, i only require it to be annotated.
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How do I figure out what syllables are emphasized/stressed in a written text? I'm trying to figure out the rhythmic metre of this poem I have to analyze and they say that difference between text and poetry is that poetry has rhythm. But stress doesn't seem to be in the definition of words in the dictionary, is the whole field of analyzing poems just mumbo jumbo?
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>If you spend enough time reading or writing, you find a voice, but you also find certain tastes. You find certain writers who when they write, it makes your own brain voice like a tuning fork, and you just resonate with them. And when that happens, reading those writers—not all of whom are modern . . . I mean, if you are willing to make allowances for the way English has changed, you can go way, way back with this— becomes a source of unbelievable joy. It’s like eating candy for the soul. So probably the smart thing to say is that lucky people develop a relationship with a certain kind of art that becomes spiritual, almost religious, and doesn’t mean, you know, church stuff, but it means you’re just never the same.
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What's /lit/ opinion on him?
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What do you imagine Dorian Gray looked like?
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>Hi!!
>I noticed you checking out that book!
>It's actually one of my favorites :D
>Would you like to grab a coffee or something? We could talk about our favorite books!
>Sorry if this is a little forward, haha
Wat do, /lit/?
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Markets and Economic literature
George Soros
A thread for discussion of the books about markets, finance and economics. Please note that this is not about learning some strategy to beat the market, or looking for tips. Effective strategies for speculation are generally proprietary. If you want one, you have to develop your own. Those already public are generally public because they are no longer effective. If someone says they have a method for winning and want to share it, chances are they are a grifter, or someone who thinks they have a method but are delusional. If you want books on the ABC's to give you a place to start on how to go about developing your own, I recommend "The Financial Times Guide to Technical Analysis" and The Economist's: "Mapping the Markets". For whatever market you are going into, please take care to do your own research. While $2,000 for example is enough for securities, going into derivates with less than $10,000 is imprudent, even if your broker allows it, since very short term volatility can easily wipe out your margin.

With that being said, here are some of my favorite excerpts from "Soros on Soros" (1995)

Soros
>The country where the [Open Society] foundation is the most powerful is Ukraine.


>In the late 1960s, I sold my brother's business to Ogden Corporation during the conglomerate boom. It was a very amusing negotiation. I got double the price his company was worth because Ogden could promote him as their resident genius who made their stock more valuable. I called it a biblical transaction, in which I got two plates of lentils for my brother.

>The important and paradoxical point is that 1944 was the happiest year of my life. This is a strange, almost offensive thing to say because 1944 was the year of the Holocaust, but it is true.

[...]

Interviewer
>Before you left Hungary, you had some harrowing experiences. How did those experiences affect you?

Soros
>They were not harrowing at all.

Interviewer
> Don't you sometimes have to do a lot of anticipatory work when everything's going right, just to get ready for the time when everything's going to go wrong?

Soros
>Of course, that's how it should be. But I don't like working. I do the absolute minimum[….] When I don’t have to, I don’t work. This has been an essential element in my approach.

the /lit/ - poetry discord server also has a channel, the-economist, for anyone interested in discussion of literature or news about economics and finance
https://discord.com/invite/2UvwjZyvBx
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books to get an image of prehistoric earth?
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Anyone ever read "You Gentiles" By Samuel Roth? Should it be on the red pill list?
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Books to get into accelerationism
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I finally got a few books instead of lurking here. I don't know how you guys read epubs for that long on a desktop. Are these good enough for a beginner?
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Why do a lot of Christians yeet out the Old Testament?
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I mean no offense , but why do Christians like to leave out the OT? The commends in there are from God, right? I saw this debate with Robert spencer and a few Muslim guys, Robert resorted to calling the OT a book of fables. While I don’t think a serious Christian would do this. What is the non cringe traditional (catholic/ orthodox) Christian understanding of the OT verses?

Thanks.
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I'm getting promoted from developer to managing a team of 5 developers.
What are good books to learn theory on how to manage people?
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What are some good books to practice analysis and literary criticism? I read Oedipus Rex with some related works and want to keep honing this skill.
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Was vernünftig ist, das ist wirklich; und was wirklich ist, das ist vernünftig.
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Describe your last bowel movement with a book title
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Is he really "a vibe"? Someone told me he was a vibe, but lowkey I'm not 100 on it.
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How good is this guy as a writer?
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What am I in for?
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You tell me volskganassen
Which is superior? To be led by society's leaders or to be fed as a cooped up magic chicken. Alas, I give you a single rose based upon my head. It is a rose of joy which I earned.
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I know that this debate has been going on and on but I would like some fresh opinions.
Are e-readers better than physical books?
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Has anybody recently, or historically, written about things like "racism and sexism" existing as covers for capitalism? Or is this a new idea?

I mean that, for example: the claim that racism was/is the cause of slavery when the cause of slavery was clearly capitalism and that, therefore, the "false causes" are championed 'by' capitalists as the pursuit of the false causes is no threat at all to the underlying consequences of capitalism.

Historically this would have been simple from the position of ordinary people, 1) not benefiting at all from and, 2) losing work to slave labor (be it domestic, overseas production, in all forms), it would have been entirely self-evident.

However from the 1850's to the 1950's+, following the end of slavery and the suppression of workers in the 1900's and then after the 1950's the "great red scare", there was the greatest of efforts to associate slavery with racialism that ran concurrently with a publishing ban against communistic materials, which were any/all cases against capitalism, of which a serious examination of slavery would have obviously been one of the strongest arguments against capitalism - it having no other cause.

In the earlier history of ordinary people being displaced in this fashion by slaves outright and then by chattel and then by overseas dirt-cheap production it could even be argued accurately that this process is and remains the cause of things labelled as 'racism', the people losing their high wages or losing work altogether would have to possess a great deal of self-restraint to not shout angrily at the people replacing them, for instance, but where the narrative of racism begins it begins as a regimented propaganda which deflects away from the true cause.

Following the rabbithole of "racism and sexism" is inactionable as it never addresses the true cause; e.g. pioneering for a world where Jim and Mungo hold hands and dance happily does nothing to actually make it so as Jim is and was all the time very angry that Mungo is a "scab" - to use the correct picket-line term - and that the enmity is solely an singularly due to the economic conditions that forces them into competition for a monetary income and that the lowest bidder; whilst himself taken advantage of, will be preferential to an employer who is looking to incur the cheapest possible costs in the pursuit of short term gains; notice that this is where the narrative of racism arises:

1) the cause is evident with even a momentary glance,
2) the cause is recast as if Jim "hates Mungo for being a Chinaman"


And when thinking about this I am always kind of bemused that the so-called Left never did very much with this argument in a publishing or even a real political sense,

...or .. I suppose I am asking here ... did they and has it just been suppressed or swept under the carpet?
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Rothpussy will NOT finish book 3. What he’ll do instead is add 10-15k more words to a 2014 mid af short story and publish as new material.

I am confident that this guy does not know how to finish his story.
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Commercial English : Anti-Discourse, Continued.
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>no essay today, just looking to explore the subject
It dawned on me that "Commercial English" language is what we're all experiencing as the busted-lip 'tard manner of thought, speech and writing in the Anglophone cultural sphere; the public relations agent or propagandist repeating simplistic non-sequitur, the idiot who reads one line and only reads to find a refutation, functional illiteracy, poor speech and reasoning skills overall, purposefully simplistic speech and narratives in stories etc., or even the 'approach' they take to reading or listening where they think they're a consumer looking for entertained, etc. etc. etc., it all falls under Commercial English: the great dumbing down and its constant reinforcement via so many sources. We're even 'educated' to write in this manner, for the sake of "mass consumption" of whatever we write.

Look at you, for example, you're thinking "what's the USP of this text? What's the hook? How do I gratify myself from this?" if the USP is unclear baby will turn tantrum red and bash its fisties upon its plastic feed tray, calling for "ma ma," whilst the notion of simply exploring ideas; even as like a high class consumer walking around in an exclusive place, even this does not readily come to you because you're so used to reading like taking up a Twinky and gripping it tight until it squirts into your face and of the finer writers we too have developed the habit of enabling this: of preparing gourmet meals, standing back and admiring the dinner table, and then going at it with a hammer, mashing it all up, then scraping the remnants into a plastic bag to be jizzed across the face.

Is it stupidity or some form of cunning which merely produces stupidty?
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Xianxia / Cultivation / Progress fantasy
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List out your favorite novels and what you are reading.
Mine are: Reverend Insanity, World of Cultivation and Lord of Mysteries (not finished)
I just finished Martial world (was honestly shit except for like a few interesting arcs)
Also I read the first book of cradle and it's cringe and reads like it was written by a teenager? I am missing something?
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What books really encapsulate the mentality of a beta male?
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Tacitus
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What am I in for?
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70 pages in
Does it get better
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Teachers/professors of /lit/
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Have you noticed that students read at a significantly lower level now than they did 10-20 years ago? What do you think is causing this?
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why aren't there more romance written for men?
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How do you cope with AI replacing you?
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Where to start in European History?
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“I urge all white people in this era to look into the mirror and to ask themselves ‘what do I know about what I am?’ And if you don’t know enough put your hand on that mirror and move towards greater knowledge of what you can become.” -Jonathan Bowden

I realize that I know nothing, but where do I start to know something? For European history, should I begin with the Romans? Greeks? Anglo Empire, World Wars or the French Coalitions? I want to be knowledgeable on my people’s history and fully appreciate the fact I was lucky enough to be born European.
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> The more I love humanity in general the less I love man in particular. In my dreams, I often make plans for the service of humanity, and perhaps I might actually face crucifixion if it were suddenly necessary. Yet I am incapable of living in the same room with anyone for two days together. I know from experience. As soon as anyone is near me, his personality disturbs me and restricts my freedom. In twenty-four hours I begin to hate the best of men: one because he’s too long over his dinner, another because he has a cold and keeps on blowing his nose. I become hostile to people the moment they come close to me. But it has always happened that the more I hate men individually the more I love humanity.
This is the best summation of the human condition I’ve ever read
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How many people have actually even looked at this book?
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Why is it so much better than Libra
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The characters are far more interesting, and although I understand the limitations of historical fiction, Libra could’ve been better. Two quotes from that book still stick with me though:
>There is a world inside the world
>Some people don't believe in God but they color eggs at Easter just to change the pattern of their days.
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Is the Norton Critical Edition of the KJV good for bible study?
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This is just the Master & Margarita for pahjeets. Did this really make muslims piss and shit themselves? The Muhammad character isn't even that disrespectful of a depiction.
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Based Martin Luther
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Holy fuck. Martin Luther was incredible. His righteous anger mixes with his sarcasm and sense of humor in a way that reminds me of Paul. No wonder people hated him. He wasn't afraid to say the truth. Are there any Catholics who are this relentless? The only one that pops into my head right now is St. John Chrysostom.
>"In other words, there are two different views of matrimony: one derives from the smart alecks and sophisticates, that is, the principal fools and blind men in the sight of God. These fellows view the state of marriage as a superfluous, presumptuous human thing that one could dispense with and do without, just as I can do without an extra jacket or coat. Then they fill the world with their foolish and blasphemous scribbling and screeching against the married state, advising all men against it, although they themselves feel — and abundantly demonstrate by their actions — that they cannot do without women, these being created specifically for marriage; instead they run after and plague themselves with whores day and night. Of this kind is that arch-fool, Johann Schmid Of Constance, that renowned whoremonger, who has written an immense book recently printed in Leipzig, against the state of matrimony."
>"He tries to talk everyone out of it but says nothing more than that there is much effort and labor connected with it, as though this were not sufficiently known throughout the world and as if this ass must first teach us what every village knows. If I were chastity herself, I could think of no greater and more unbearable shame and disgrace than to be praised by such whoremongers, and enemies of chastity. They rail against us, charging that we are enemies of chastity and promoters of marriage who prefer to see men married; and we are to consider them extremely wise, though they cannot but devote themselves to incessant fornication and though they praise chastity with their only and defame the married state." (Luther's Commentaries on 1 Corinthians 7)
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Why does he treat hypostasis and Person as different things in the objections 2 and 3, and in the objection 4 writes "Person or hypostasis", as if they were the same thing? I just wanna understand this.
https://www.newadvent.org/summa/4002.htm
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This book is never discussed here. Has anyone read Michel de Certeau? What is he talking about? Why can't I find any clear description of his thought?
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any anons ACTUALLY make it past the transcendental aesthetic? besides me of course.
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*single-handedly saves the canon*
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Is Brazil the country with the best poetry in the 20th century?
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why aren't you writing a novel?
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paperback book in the back pocket, is it the move /lit/?

https://files.catbox.moe/795cg6.mp4
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Book Club Structure Suggestions
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I am beginning a book club featuring a couple of friends who have recently begun reading literature and we have vaguely similar reading interests. The plan is to assign 1-2 books per month and then meet on the final weekend of each month to chat about the book(s) and enjoy wine/charcuterie. For October, we are going to read Dracula and Frankenstein, then Brothers of Karamazov for November.

For those who have any experience in bookclubs, can you please share your suggestions of what makes a good bookclub? This is a rather informal bookclub, but I would like to hear thoughts!
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You may not like it, but Elizabethan English is the eugenic zenith of the language and everything since has been a falling away.
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