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"/lit/ - Literature" is 4chan's board for the discussion of books, authors, and literature.

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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

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>...and thus, human nature is most succinctly described as the act of learning, and the actions that stem from what we've learned.
How correct is this statement /lit/?
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2/3d's of the way through this right now. It started off really strong - humorous, entertaining, and it was obvious bret easton ellis took notes for American psycho, dfw also, but much of the book has felt fairly aimless. Has anyone read this and how does it compare with his later work?
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I just finished reading the Hobbit and Lord of the rings for the first time and I loved them. What should I read next? Why didn't tolkien publish a story about the fourth age? What exactly goes on in the land where the ring bearers go to in the west? Why was Gandalf wearing one of the rings? Why didn't Aragorn ever come north to see the Hobbits or bring peace to the north like he said? What happened to Legolas and Gimli? What happened to all of the orcs, were they all just under the control of Sauron and what will they do without him?
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Chart Thread
Don't know if there's a new chart thread but if there isn't here's a new one. Post your charts
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"X Meets Y" thread
We combine two things together and others try to find a book that best resembles that fusion.

I'll start with a hard one: Lord of The Rings meets Million Dollar Extreme.
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How do I train humility and obedience?

There's no other way around it - unless you're a Machiavellian psychopath Chad and you're taking over the system from the inside, you're better off being humble and obedient. The society will reward you for it and you can live comfortable like a good little worker bee.

How do I become okay with this? What are some ways to train humility and obedience?

I'm basically a depressed piece of shit who hates authority of any kind. That doesn't work so well for me.
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What would the character Tyler Durden read (philosophy and other)?
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How can I reconcile the cyclical concept of Time with Christianity?

I believe that renewal is necessary, anything that lives long enough (a human, or a society etc) will corrupt, become weak and a mere shadow of its former self. Thus death, destruction - ultimately chaos - is necessary for the world to go around. Order is born out of chaos.
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Plato BTFO
>Philosophy has an affinity with despotism, due to its predilection for Platonic-fascist top-down solutions that always screw up viciously. Schizoanalysis works differently. It avoids Ideas, and sticks to diagrams: networking software for accessing bodies without organs.
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I want to read sir Gawain and the green knight in the original Middle English like a true patrician. What should I do to prepare to make it as painless as possible?
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Why isn't atheism considered a major ideology or -ism in the XX century?
There is not a single philosophy, sociology textbook that adreess it directly or gives it it's own chapter. Is it because it's irrelevant?
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Post shelves

I’ll be judging all yours
So judge mine
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reckon u lot reading yer big noncey books need a good clip about the ears. not avin it
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Can God possibly give life meaning?
I don't think that there is a possibility in which the existence of a God gives meaning to our lives. If we are meant to choose between two moral paths for our own gain, that is not a purposeful action. If our fates are part of a greater scheme, that scheme cannot possibly matter more than our lives on Earth, as even the matters of a higher realm would need to have a greater meaning for that to be worth anything, and the only thing this could equate to in is a hierarchy of rulers with nothing more than vision.

Yes, live a purposeful life. Yes, believe in your God.

inb4 >>you don't get it, it's a higher power
>>that big bang shit appears in the comments
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>hurr durr I’m a sociopath
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Jannies it's time!
Since jannies are filth and actively suppressing discussion, while leaving the incessant spamming intact (for over two years), we must take this matter into our hand and obliterate this board. We will flood /lit/ with fuck jannies threads every day at 19:00 GMT+0 . In 4 hours. I'm counting on all of you. We WILL terminate this place. We don't need discord like the braindead tranny zoomers to organize and crash this place.
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Non-duality discussion thread
In Memoriam (pbuh)
Brothers. I have discovered and understood that consciousness/awareness is without parts and thus non-dual. For one cannot split his awareness into the hating and the loving, into the perceiving and the not perceiving, into the seeing and the blind, into the ignorant and the enlightened. It is all non-dually without parts and thus immaterial. I have finally refuted materialist doctrine with the help of contemplating upon Guénon. I have escaped the spiritual desert...

I sincerely thank all of you who helped me on my path.
Peace and blessings be upon you.
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>Traditional Catholicism
>German Idealism
>Advaita Vedanta
>Eastern Orthodox Christianity
>Mark Passio's what on earth is happening
>Analytic philosophy
>Chinese consciousness
>Race mixing

What is the end goal of human consciousness?
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I have written a book.
I have spent months writing a book and I would like readers, where can I find them?
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My search for the truth has lead me to the realization there is no truth. We are just potentials and shadows of thoughts, a dream within dream within a dream.
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What is the actual reason to live? I don't see why I should be doing anything.
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Books about homosexuality?
Completely unironic here. I want to understand my strong attraction to feminine men/want to understand sexuality better in general.
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Is it true that Russians actually like Pushkin more than Tolstoy and Dostoevsky
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Favorite Scandinavian writer?
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Is he /lit/?
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What makes a book good?
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Books about China
Recommendations? I've read quite a few and want to compile a list.
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how accurate is this? what else would you add
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What is the most /lit/ name?
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You did read the Iliad and the Odyssey out loud, right?
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Hunter s. Thompson
What's /his/'s opinion of the guy? I read fear and loathing and the rum diaries, pretty good books imo
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Consume the redhatpill
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Good comedy books?
Why do most books that I try to read put me to sleep?

Are good books rare or something? Even the recommended books that people recommend on here are fucking snooze-fests. The books that are popular on WomenReads and Amazon are fucking boring.
It made me wonder if reading isn't really 'for me'. But I hate watching movies and Netflix, and I just don't care enough to watch an Anime, anymore.

I'm wondering if it's just me or if these books are actually boring.
I tried to read The Shining but I found that it had too much text-dumping and I was falling asleep. Nothing really happened yet so just I gave up by the third chapter.

I figured since I liked stand-up comedy, I should go through the comedy section of the books on Amazon and Goodreads but those books are either cringe or just plain bad.
After three shit puns, I just can't bring myself to continue reading anymore of the terrible 'comedy' books that are popular.
BossyPants was fucking trash. Why is it so popular? Why do I have to go digging around to find Christopher Moore's books but these trashy and cringey comedy novels are shoved in my face on the recommended?

Is it really just me?
I'm actually wondering if I'm dyslexic because a lot of these books might just be hard to read and it may not even be because I find them boring.
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money isn't real
i'm looking for literature to confirm this. I'm particularly interested in how the jews create money out of thin air.
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Pentti Linkola has died.
Gone but not forgotten.
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What are some tales of swashbuckling daring-do that /lit/ would recommend?
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books that capture the mood of this film?
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What's your daily quarantine routine? Are you living that /lit/erary lifestyle right now?
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>writes one (1) good novel
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Mr. Taleb's heterosexuality has been well established and is not under question.
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What are some anti-city books?
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Good morning, /lit/. What are you reading today?
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is meaning and expression more important than form and technique?
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We're told to "start with the Greeks" in our culture. Ok. But what were the Greeks told to start with??
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He finally pressed the button... prepare yourself
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...I have left humanity behind
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>the sounds of crying atheists
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>Verso Books
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So, why do you want to be a writer?
For all the hopeful writers on this board, I ask of of you, why? Is it for yourself—do you have these burning ideas inside of you that you need to get out on the page, is it an intellectual exercise, or have you just never found a book that quite speaks to you? Or is it mainly for other people—do you want a legacy to be remembered by, recognition for a talent, and do you even dare to imagine yourself winning prestigious awards? And truthfully, do you even think you have a chance at accomplishing your goals?
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>magical realism
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What's he reading, /lit/?
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Why have the Baltic states produced nothing of value in literature?
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>be 8-14
>love reading
>read sometimes 2-3 books in a week
>get in trampoline accident
>pretty bad concussion
>lose consciousness for a few hours
>be 15-26
>cant read more than 6 pages without getting bored/distracted

I want it back bros, how can I get back my love of reading from my youth?
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Which author resembles your thinking pattern, ideology and system of belief?
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Prove to me that i exist

>you cannot
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If i don't find a bf by the time I'm done with contemporary philosophers I'll off myself
Currently I'm at Boethius
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sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General
BOOK CLUB Spin - Robert Charles Wilson!O1cFiKaS!hPf1KFnauX7PSaM5PJE3QA

Previous thread:
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Does /lit/ identify as 'cyberpunk'?
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>The proverbial straw that broke the proverbial Camel's proverbial back
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roman writers
I've finished the Greeks as much as I'm going to, and I'm ready to start with the Romans. I already want to read Virgil, Seneca, Catullus, Horace, Cicero, and Ovid. Who else are essential reads among the Romans?
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>gen x, gen y, gen z

How fitting, that the last generation is marked by the last letter.
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What digital (epub, mobi, pdf) resource guides /academic textbooks should I be stockpiling in case Internet goes down?
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I am going to tutor an older person who is interested in Philosophy. He is a complete beginner, doesn't know anything but is curious and wants to learn something new.

What texts shall I use? I will give a lesson every week, and I want to start with the Greeks. I think we can do weekly readings of about 40 pages. I have my readings for Plato sorted out already.

Basically it is more important to have fun with philosophy and learn something in the meantime than to be a completionist.
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I have composed a 'hip-hop' song in honor of /lit/'s favorite intellectual. It should be sung to this beat

I got you stuck off the realness, we be the gnosis
You heard of us, official non-dual murderers
The Trads comes equipped for memetic warfare, beware
Of my autodidact family who got nuff tomes to share
For all of those, who wanna profile and pose
Retroactively refute your favorite philosopher, make you give on your role as their expositor
You all alone in these threads, hylic
Every man for they self on this board we be postin
And keep them shook pseuds running, like they supposed to
They spam pastas but they never come close to realization
I can see it inside your face, you're in the wrong thread and finna get an education
Buddhists like you just get they religion laced up
With retroactive refutations and such
Speak the wrong words man and you will get debunked
You can put your whole Guenonfag screencap collection against my team and
I guarantee you I'll be the very last one postin
Your modernist assumptions just don't move me, you're minor, we're major
You're all up in the debate and don't deserve to be a poster
Don't make me have to call your maya-based delusions out
Your theory is refuted, my Guenon (pbuh) quotes make you hesitate
I'm only eternal and unborn but my mind is old
And when the things get for real Brahman dawns in my heart removing the cold
Another Process philosopher destroyed, another story gets told
It ain't nothing really, hey, yo dun spark the opium
So I can get my mind off these duplicitous materialists
Why they still posting I don't know, go figure
Meanwhile back on the Guenonian discord the realness and foundation
If I attain fanāʾ I couldn't choose a better location
When Shankarcharya's arguments penetrate Buddhists feel a burning sensation
Getting closer to Allah (swt) in a tight situation
Now, take these words hylic and think it through
Or the next rhyme I write might be about you
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What are some /lit/ YA novels?
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I need a short story that will get a girl all emotional and horny. Something charming and sweet that flows well.
Preferably with a more or less overt message that it's better to pursue a new love than stick with your lame ass boyfriend.

Help me out, bros.
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are light novels literature ?
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Is she the next Pessoa?
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What's he thinking of /lit/?
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Books that are actually fun to read?
I mean I loved ready the great Russians and starting the the Greeks but I completely lost interest in books like two years and and feel inspired to read something again. What are some fun reads that aren’t normie garbage? Classics and literary fiction all fine.

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Have you read these?
exit level
Hey, hey people.
Has anyone read any or several of these?
The pic is a collection of supposedly super dark books.
Do you think these are worth reading?
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I want to get into evolutionary anthropology. What should I read?
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Balzac? More like ball sack!
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>late stage capitalism
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This is the greatest work of philosophy of the 21st century
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What kind of person likes Yukio Mishima?
What kind of person likes Yukio Mishima? And why is he so liked on this board? Why do you like him? Is it because he's beta and you're beta?

I am drawn to this man, not because I admire him but because he's a train wreck and a warning sign of what NOT to be. I don't want to end up like him. I don't want to be this pathetic beta trying to be alpha. I relate to him too much and I don't want to be like him, I cringe at this man's story. I feel bad for this man and feel bad for myself for relating.
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Where do I begin with this great man? /lit/'s obsession with him has convinced me to finally read him..
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>yeah bro I'm definitely a sigma male
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Penguin Books
Most of my books are Penguin books. What does this make me? Have I fallen for the marketing?
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Love is blind
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how do i into eastern philosophy?
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Can anyone explain to me what non-dualism is? Any good books to read on the topic?
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No teacher, no student, no teaching
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Books/Authors that cover similar topics and themes to the ones Neil does on this album?

Occult, esoteric and surreal topics with a humorous/ironic slant. Conspiracy theories and urban legends being very prominent.
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Why do we think that murder (termination of existence without consent) is wrong yet we accept giving birth (termination of nonexistence without consent) as a moral good?
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>writer makes a brief appearance as a background character in his own story
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Harold Bloom on DFW
>Asked about novelist David Foster Wallace, who took his own life in 2008, but who has a new book out, “The Pale King: An Unfinished Novel,” put together from manuscript chapters and files found in his computer, Bloom says, “You know, I don’t want to be offensive. But ‘Infinite Jest’ [regarded by many as Wallace’s masterpiece] is just awful. It seems ridiculous to have to say it. He can’t think, he can’t write. There’s no discernible talent.”

>It’s all a clear indication, Bloom notes, of the decline of literary standards. He was upset in 2003 when the National Book Award gave a special award to Stephen King. “But Stephen King is Cervantes compared with David Foster Wallace. We have no standards left. [Wallace] seems to have been a very sincere and troubled person, but that doesn’t mean I have to endure reading him. I even resented the use of the term from Shakespeare, when Hamlet calls the king’s jester Yorick, ‘a fellow of infinite jest.’

>“It’s sort of a dark time. Imaginative energy I think is very difficult to summon up when there are so many distractions. There’s a kind of Grisham’s law [in literature]; the bad drives out the good.”
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Other selves
in Kant's system. How do they account for the existence of other selves? If in Kant, even the one's own transcendental ego can only be posited, but not experienced (or known), what then of other egos? Are they to be taken on faith? How does one avoid solipsism?
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I dare you to read it all
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Time travel
How would you go about initiating time travel with your main character? I'm trying to write a story with some time travelling elements, but the main character lives in the distant past so there's no brainiac plot device character to build one for him.
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What are some books to help cope with the loss of a loved one?
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Books for a superior INTJ like me?
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How do I create my own prose style?
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how do you, you personally, come up with a plot?
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really activates the almonds
The authors find East Asians to be holistic, attending to the entire field and assigning causality to it, making relatively little use of categories and formal logic, and relying on "dialectical" reasoning, whereas Westerners are more analytic, paying attention primarily to the object and the categories to which it belongs and using rules, including formal logic, to understand its behavior. The 2 types of cognitive processes are embedded in different naive metaphysical systems and tacit epistemologies. The authors speculate that the origin of these differences is traceable to markedly different social systems. The theory and the evidence presented call into question long-held assumptions about basic cognitive processes and even about the appropriateness of the process-content distinction.
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ngl reading lothario cucking camila got my pp hard
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Can't seem to find Skylark by Dezső Kosztolányi anywhere. Maybe somebody happen to have PDF file of it? Another anon recommended it to me so I would like to read it.

Best regards,
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Recommend some apocalyptic literature pls.
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Looking for a book that is unexpectedly no where
Taedong River Royal Family. a book written by a family member of the North Korean Regime who defected in 90's I have seen many articles written about it but every where I look it seems to have vanished maybe I have a bad title but even the amazon link for it has been deleted and leads to a dead page
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What is /lit/'s opinion of Tom Clancy?
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All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts.
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Post your short story ideas. It's not like they're going anywhere.
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How is philosophy related to art?
Like whats the connection and how is it connected. Any books on this topic or authors you know of who might have covered it?
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Handwriting general.
>I wish I had some free time to practice my handwriting.
Well, most of us are stuck in quarantine now, so what better time.

Post something you've written and let others critique it and leave suggestions of what to practice.
This should ideally be something you've written casually, and not something you've written 10 times over to have it look as good as possible.
Show us your base line! That, after all, is what you want to raise.

Not strictly a critique thread, so feel free to discuss styles and what not.
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>tfw no esotericist gf to discuss metaphysics with and mutually aid in each other's ascendance through the practice of tantric techniques
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Crime and Punishment
I have a Constance Garnett translation of Crime and Punishment. Would you still consider that translation to be "literature"? I know that a lot of people have issues with her translations. I'm wondering if I should bother reading it.
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What other worldview should I consider contemplating before becoming Christian?

What about Gnosticism, Hinduism, Nietzscheanism and so forth? I haven't given either of these any consideration, frankly I'm not familiar with them at all, and for the last year my focus has been solely on overcoming atheism, which I have been successful at.
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Me and Nick land are among the few individuals to fully understand the implications of Deleuzean thought and achieve the BwO. It is no coincidence that we both went insane soon after. Six visits to the psych ward later after deterritorializing myself with hardcore psychedelics, I have now returned to the fold of Platonism. The ethics of difference, it would seem, end only in a padded cell or a coffin. For my mother's sake, I now adhere to virtue ethics. Kinda miss fucking bipolar scene sluts but then again that's probably how I ended up with tertiary syphilis. I only hope my future wife can forgive me my immature philosophical infatuation...
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What is the definitive list of /fuentescore/?
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>be reading Kant
>dad comes into my room
>are ya winning son?

What do you answer?
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Are there any books that explain why modern women hate chivalry so much?
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Iq tests
What's the best free online iq test? I hear numbers being thrown around here constantly and would like to see how I measure up
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Does /lit/ pass the female filter test?
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>that final chapter
it's been like 5 yrs since i read it and i can still picture it so clearly. whats your favorite blood meridian scene /lit/?
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Did he really think the only thing that exists is a universal mind or spirit becoming more and more aware of itself through the unfolding of history?

What kind of hippy was he?
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Who are the greatest living philosophers?
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Oh God Oh Fuck
Literature to explain why half of all marriages end in divorce? Books that explain why so many family situations turn out so terrible?
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Where do i start with his books regarding christian anarchism?
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Question about intellectualism versus sentimentalism
Who was it who said that modern religion and spirituality overly sentimental and does not engage with man's intellect? Someone talked about on here I think. Was it Guenon [pbuh]?
I'm sure I heard this idea somewhere through or around here.

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What did he mean by this?
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don’t care about philosophy or theism or anything, just want some cool books to read. any recs? i haven’t read a book in 2 years and am currently reading The Road
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>just read him bro
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Are there any cool analytical philosophers?
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Hypertext related
Hi y'all /lit/.
Recently I discovered hypertext literature, and I got to know works such as 'Victory Garden' and 'afternoon, a story'; the concept amazes me, is like binge-reading across Wikipedia articles' embedded links but with actual literature.

Now I am in pursuit of two things:
- Websites where I can read this kind of works (Hypertext novels, hypertext poetry, etc)
- Works about the concept of hypertext and hypermedia (Please not Project Xanadu, nor Garden of Forking Paths, since I already been through them).

Any leads?
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How do you feel about the general degradation of our communication and the creeping takeover of soft language? I started thinking about this when I realized I was unconsciously accepting the term "sex worker" in place of "prostitute." The system has mollycoddled people so much that they now recoil when you use direct language to call something what it objectively is. 1984 touched on this subject, about how taking away words from the masses takes away their ability to articulate their dissent, but I'm interested in a deeper discussion. Recommend me any relevant books.
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So... how many books do I need before I get a girlfriend?
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where do i start with Taleb?
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Is film an inherently more powerful and effective artistic medium than literature?
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What is the best book (objectively)?
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Comedy & Jokes
I don't know, if this fits here, but how does one go on about becoming a better joke teller, coming up with jokes and what are some good books to hear a ton of witty/clean/dark, etc... jokes to use in conversations?

I understand most are personal stories and being spontaneous on the spot in combination with general knowledge of world and creativity, but is there more to it?

Any good books that are full of jokes, stories and so on to tell during those drunk nights, when room starts to become silent and you run out of everything?

Tell your favorite ones.
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>tfw you remember that one time you sent Cormac McCarthy a bunch of shitty anime fanart
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trashy woman writing
Why are female writers so bad, anons? I just read some literature posted by a femanon here on /lit/ and it's absolute cringe. It's just a rape fantasy literotica trash about she having daddy issues and being raped by his father like a little bitch. Do women really enjoy writing and reading this sort of crap?
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Futurist Literature
Has anyone read anything Futurist? Opinion on it? I've been thinking of pic related, I want to read it because it sounds absurd but also because i'd like to know what they actually think. From what I heard from most people they just want to rape women, but is that really true?
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Booker International 2020 Opening lines

Which of these opening lines do you like best?
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Agatha Christie
What does /lit/ think of Agatha Christie?
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What is a useful theory on narratives? (as if I were perhaps analysing one or making a great narrative that could stand the test of time)

I was thinking of things like:
> Jung's collective unconscious (as in Man and his Symbols)
> Text World Theory
> Cognitive Stylistics, Cognitive Narratology, ...
> Barthes' structuralism (as in S/Z)
> Theory of Narrative Thought
> Paul Ricoeur's ideas as in Time and Narrative
> Jordan Peterson's maps of meaning
> Campbell's hero's journey
> Victor Frankl's Existentialism
> Maybe some poststructuralist?

What do you anons suggest?
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