Board: /lit/
"/lit/ - Literature" is 4chan's board for the discussion of books, authors, and literature.
/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.
Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.
/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.
Looking for books online? Check here:
Guide to #bookz
https://www.geocities.ws/prissy_90/Media/Texts/BookzHelp19kb.htm
Bookzz
http://b-ok.cc/
http://libgen.rs/
Recommended Literature
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading About to marathon this kino bros, what am I in for>? I'm having to ask Muslim relatives every fucking page for clarifications on this and that. Maybe I'm the rabble it describes as not being able to understand it >a children's book that's somehow more emotional and profound that half of the "adult" books out there
you ought to be ashamed of yourself >raising the marginal tax rate by 0.5% is theft even though the government could put that money to better use than private individuals
>land theft is good and justified because Jews put that land to better use than Muslims
This is the most vile book ever written Describe this man in your finest prose
What books, articles, or blogs have you read that provide interesting perspectives on Russia and its relation to the current international order, especially as regards United States or the War in Ukraine?
There seem to be two primary flavors in American interpretations of the conflict:
(1) Putin invaded Ukraine out of imperialistic ambition, and we must continue to arm and support Ukraine not only out of a moral imperative in upholding Ukraine's sovereignty and global democracy (which we should seek to spread), but because otherwise appeasing Putin would encourage further violations of international law and national sovereignty, or
(2) Putin's invasion of Ukraine is understandable as a rational reaction to the West's continued expansion of NATO, as well as to various but relatively consistent indications of bad faith or duplicity in the West's (particular America's) actions towards Russia and internationally. In order to quell Russia's fears and reduce the risk expanded (or especially nuclear) conflict, we should advocate for a peaceful settlement that is likely to be very favorable to Russia (aka accept some Russian war aims).
I just finished Not One Inch by M.E. Sarotte, which essentially argues for point (2), though it was published just prior to the invasion. Solid book; it's well sourced and well argued.
It's difficult to deny that Russia has ample reason to distrust the West, but ultimately it's also difficult to believe that Russia would be some bastion of democracy, or even a functional one, had different steps been taken following the fall of the USSR. Early elections in 1993 and 1995 turned out big wins for an extreme far-right white-supremacist party on one hand, and a communist restoration party on the other. Russia has never had a functional democracy in its history.
You guys read anything cool lately?
C.G Jung's observations concerning America:
>Another thing that struck me [in the American] was the great influence of the Negro, a psychological influence naturally, not due to the mixing of blood. The emotional way an American expresses himself, especially the way he laughs, can best be studied in the illustrated supplements of the American papers; the inimitable Teddy Roosevelt laugh is found in its primordial form in the American Negro. The peculiar walk with loose joints, or the swinging of the hips so frequently observed in Americans, also comes from the Negro.[3] American music draws its main inspiration from the Negro, and so does the dance. The expression of religious feeling, the revival meetings, the Holy Rollers and other abnormalities are strongly influenced by the Negro. The vivacity of the average American, which shows itself not only at baseball games but quite particularly in his extraordinary love of talking – the ceaseless gabble of American papers is an eloquent example of this – is scarcely to be derived from his Germanic forefathers, but is far more like the chattering of a Negro village. The almost total lack of privacy and the all-devouring mass sociability remind one of primitive life in open huts, where there is complete identity with all members of the tribe. >Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb
>Archive
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg
>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
Previous Thread: >>23622746 So it's leaked already on annas. What do we think about it? What are some books to help me understand the state of Modern France? Just finished. What did I think of this? >Being true (wahr) is contrasted by Hegel with being merely correct (richtig). Mere correctness is the status of our ordinary (empirical, mathematical etc.) knowledge claims. Hegel talks of the truth of things other than judgements or propositions, e.g. of the truth of consciousness. The truth of something is its goal or telos: a thing is true when it is actual. Truth involves negation and sublation. Strictly, only the Absolute or Idea is true.
This has filtered so many people. Has pic related ever been refuted? >Bronze Age Pervert
>Raw Egg Nationalist
>Zero HP Lovecraft
>Nick Land
>Mencius Moldbug
>Aimee Terese
>Mike Ma
>Delicious Tacos
>Steve Sailer
>Anna Khachiyan
>Fisted by Foucault
>Jay Dyer
>Keith Woods
The right is in a intellectual renaissance at the moment. The above-mentioned figures are basically the 21st century equivalent of Spengler, Heidegger, Evola, Hunger, Schmitt, etc. Soon our ideas will invade the collective consciousness and we will see real change in our lifetime. μῆνιν ἄειδε edition
>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>23602883
>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw
>Mέγα τὸ ANE
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg
>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko
All Eastern and Western classical languages are welcome Why is Christianity shrinking while Islam thrives? Is the Quran a better Holy book than the Bible?
It’s the 80s. It’s New York City. And life in the Big Apple is one mean and dangerous place. Crime is at an all time high. And out here there’s a man that would like to think of himself as the biggest and baddest dude to ever grace these streets. One Michael "Madboy" Connelly. A real brawler, a real womanizer, a real player, and a real prick. Just an all around bad boy. But he’s got his story, that of a newly released man that's planning for revenge, against those he believes had set him up and had him sent to the slammer. But that’s just one man’s story in a bigger story. There’s also a man in the city that’s been all over the TV, that everyone’s calling "The Big White Head." A mysterious man with a lot of power, that plans to start anarchy. Start what he’s proclaiming as "The Age of Rage," leading to all the gangs on the streets to rise up and try to wipe this city straight off the map. Between Michael "Madboy" Connelly, The Big White Head, and The Age of Rage, it’s gonna be a hot time in the city, tonight.
https://open.spotify.com/show/0Jt8LlWNnFqy64zFfDN2qL
this scripture right here encapsulates the spirit of Humanity, its the literal peak writing any human being has wrote and I even suspect it was written by God
The absolute struggle, the sufferings, the blood, the tears, the killings, Life at its absolutes here is shown
Reverend insanity is a very spiritual book, shallow people cannot see that
Fang yuan's spirit, his personality, struggles, life, resolutions, hatred, ruthlesness, smile
Pursuit of the Infinite! Eternal life is his goal, the world his stage, you the one along for the ride
this is not a book for enjoyment, if you go on the ride, you are resolute in pursuing whatever it takes to attain the Infinite, stepping on corpses, returning in time, fighting to the death and dying repeatedly
He will not give up! this guy is a mad man, an absolute devil, whatever it takes, he will pay it full price upfront!
Wisdom is sown everywhere in this novel, the spirit of humanity, resistance and fighting for the beyond, fighting both against God, Fate and everything human
the main struggle in the novel is against Fate Gu and fighting its shackles
if you do not feel the Absolute Excitment, adrenaline flowing through your veins in everyone of its chapters, you are reading wrong
This is a divine book bestowed on humanity, if you wanna descend into hell to look for what is Real, what creates this world, who you are really are in the deepest part of yourself, here you go
its a very long read, when you go in, leave this world behind completely, and become the story, believe everything in the story to be real
A Journey to the Beyond! this world is too small for people who look for the beyond, if you don't have that fire in your soul while and after reading this novel, you are reading it wrong
were you wronged in your past? have you suffered? have you cried in the deepest part of the night?
well, cry no longer, enter here and kill everything that has made you suffer, pursue the infinite and take revenge on all your enemies, your goal Eternal Life, your enemy, God, Fate and the entire world
if you do not find God after reading this novel, then you need to reread, honestly this is a better book than the bible or the quran, this here is an absolute gem
returning in time, dying, suffering, cruelty, darkness, hell itself, yet who are you, you are Fang Yuan, the world is too small to contain you, you are a raging inferno ready to conquer everything, whatever it takes!
If you still want to live after this, something must be wrong with you, this has shown the absolute fire that Life is, I've lived through everything in it, put myself in it, was thrown everywhere
This here encapsulates the Paradox and Insight of humanity, the philosophical questions, the deepest inquiries, looking and wanting to become Infinite
This book right here I suspect is written by God was dh lawrence just a fucking asshole? Hey, you brilliant neckbeards. Gimme your best filter-proof introductory books on the Tractatus. >be JK Rowling
>write climactic book to your mega successful book series
>insert multiple important new characters and a macguffin never mentioned before in the series
>Harry doesn't end up with Hermione (wtf)
>numerous unnecessary deaths
>Rowling breaks canon lore multiple times and can't even get the years right
>excessively long and boring middle part where they're just wandering around in the woods
>never explains what happened to the Dursleys
>deus ex machina ending
>Dumbledore is gay now
What the fuck was she thinking? Is Deathly Hallows the worst book in the series?
compiling a list of books which go into detail as to why Western Civilization is in decline, anyone got any good ones i haven't listed?
Any ideological viewpoint on the part of the authors or predicted future course is welcome. For example Spengler was a complete nihilistic chud who believed in absolute doom but Toynbee was far more optimistic and thought the West could find a way to reverse course and revitalize itself
>The Death of God and the Meaning of Life by Julian Young
>Death of the Soul: from Descartes to the Computer by William Barrett
>Ideas Have Consequences by Richard Weaver
>The Decline of the West (2 volumes) by Oswald Spengler
>Man and Technics by Oswald Spengler
>Woman and Power in History by Amaury De Riencourt
>The Coming Caesars by Amaury De Riencourt
>From Dawn to Decadence by Jacques Barzun
>The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times by Rene Guenon
>The Crisis of the Modern World by Rene Guenon
>The Will to Power by Nietzsche
>The Disintegrating Conscience and the Decline of Modernity by Steven Smith
>A Study of History (12 volumes) by Arnold Toynbee My first language is spanish and I learned english, Normally I read in spanish literature from other romance cultures like french, and russian literature because I have heard that both spanish and russian the difference between formal and informal speaking is more prominent, a thing that would be less noticeable in english.
And in english, literature from germanic languages and more obscure books that would be impossible to get in spanish.
In which languages y'all chose to read? Any of you use one of these? Anon what is your comfort book/series? So... where is the Caesar? How much it has to get worse for things to start to get better? What's so bad about LOTR? Does anybody have any good recommendations for erotic books? What is modernism and how should I approach it?
I just finished reading To the Lighthouse and it is meaningless, literally meaningless, like a book of blank pages.
It’s funny because I feel like I understand modernist painting and sculpture just fine. Hey, remember when the Dilbert guy decided he was going to be a serious author? Why is hedonism so misunderstood? It’s not about pursuing excessive pleasure but about appreciating the the simple pleasures you do have. >Read Moby Dick expecting a story about man's battle with nature
>It's the most homoerotic book in literary canon
explain Shitty Rhymes edition
Post your poems; critique all the others.
the Thread challenge this time:
Haikus about MOTHERS!
FAQ:
>How do I get started?
All you need is a creative mood and the willingness to do it better next time, dude.
>Recommended reading:
Poetic Meter and Poetic Form, by Paul Fussell
Tradition and the Individual Talent, by T. S. Eliot (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/articles/69400/tradition-and-the-individual-talent) >it's a roger and jessica subchapter
Hegel is often credited with proceeding according to a "dialectical method"; in point of fact, however, Hegel characterizes his philosophy as "speculative" (spekulativ), rather than dialectical, and uses the term "dialectical" only "quite rarely". This is because, although "Dialektik sometimes stands for the entire movement of the self-articulation of meaning or thought, this term refers more specifically to the self-negation of the determinations of the understanding (Verstand), when they are thought through in their fixedness and opposition."
By contrast, "Hegel describes correct thinking as the methodical interplay of three moments[:]
(a) abstract and intellectual (verständig),
(b) dialectical or negatively rational (negativvernünftig), and
(c) speculative or positively rational (positivvernünftig)."
For example, self-consciousness is "the concept that consciousness has of itself. Thus in this case concept and referent coincide:... 'self-consciousness' refers to mind's taking on the self-contradictory (and thus also self-negating) role of being subject and object of one and the same act of cognition – simultaneously and in the same respect." Hence it is a speculative concept. Reading novels has ruined video games for me. Even the best written video games (e.g. Fallout New Vegas) are childish compared to great literature. Has this happened to anyone else? Recommendations for writings on Speculative Zoology? e.g after man, the new dinosaurs, and star maker. How do I kickstart my literary career without being a nepo child or Twatter grifter? What does it mean for the Word to be made flesh? What is happening here? Is it just me or does his prose kind of suck? I don't even mind much, I like other aspects of his stories. Do you read novels in english or would you rather read a translation even though you can read in english? Sometimes old novels can have a ton of very unusual and outdated words, I’ve been pondering if I should read Little Dorrit in the original or just get a translation. I am presently reading this splendid book, and it has a nice balance between scientific "facts" and natural observations & anecdotal experiences, which is better than terse scientific mechanized ones.
It is abundantly clear to me that crows are superior to man. Man is merely a violent and *mechanized* chimp. Mechanization turns man into a being worse than chimps.
Crows, themselves, however, are naturally intelligent, good family members with their cooperative breeding, noble and sagacious, and more.
A crow is worth than a dead Jew on a stick. I curse the Holy Spirit every day. Honestly, reading this book, I can imagine a blissful future where everyone is dead and crows feast on our flesh, converting it into light.
When crows take over the world, they will connect to the Dharma in their own way, no doubt.
Life is meaningful, but human life is meaningless. Every single last Nazi, Abrahamshit, and others here deserves to die. Does this look like literature? recommendations on where to start with Carl Jungs books?
You weren’t filtered right? You did know the canon and were actually able to use that knowledge creatively right anon? Let us suppose so. I hope discussion can be enlightening for those of us on the cusp of understanding. In “Becoming Intense, Becoming Animal, Becoming Imperceptible” D&G elaborate on becoming, which they distinguish from scholastic and structural accounts of change yoked to identities. I recall in Aristotle’s physics how change is explained as motion in place, or motion about a very small circle. I may be misremembering, so please help on this point if you can. In this case movement (A to B) and identity are priveleged. What if we took speed instead, unmoored from movement and identity as the cause of change? I believe this would be becoming. We might imagine a motion ‘in place’ that is not about an identity. Becoming intense?
In Darwinian biology we explain traits in terms of heredity. Genes from mommy and daddy are combined and baby gets them, which then produces their phenotype through protein synthesis, I.e. gene expression. . Of course this does not apply in all cases, with asexual reproduction of bacteria, parthenogenesis in animals, viruses, and lichens being troublesome. Can we really admit so many ‘exceptions’? Against heredity D&G assert contagion, the pack, multiplicity. The werewolf is a becoming of man. It is not that someone resembles the wolf while remaining a son or daughter, rather there is a change ‘in place’, a speed or slowness so that they alter their being in a manner that has nothing to do with heredity. The bite of the werewolf, or vampire transmits the contagion. The Koryos were to other men as wolves are to sheep, because they made their body emit a molecular wolf, a change ‘in place’ produced by an intense speed. These speeds take up ‘material’ and propagate. Consider how one might have two bodies of water separated by a wall. One side is agitated such that waves form, with a certain period and frequency. When the wall is lifted this will be transmitted across the now contiguous material of water. The wave is a becoming of water. The waving of water. Of course water waves are extensive, but extensive becomings do not preclude intensive ‘ones’. The matter of the werewolf is man. The wolfing of the ‘were’, as it were.
I hope that criticism can help us understand more, or any comments on ATP are welcome. Are there any books that feel like softly weeping eternally in the afterlife? I don't know if it would be out of pity or shame or guilt, but it's an image that regularly appears in my mind, and I haven't found a book that properly captured its magnitude, only music. >Balzac
>Shakespeare
>Pound
>Cummings
>Dickinson
>Sexton
>Longfellow
>Updike
>Hardy What some /lit/ eroticas that you've read? Need something to goon instead of raw porn Who is the most fuckable author? The man who destroyed /lit/ What are the best books on the topic of facial aesthetics and/or cosmetic surgery Seriously, what the fuck is it about this novel that people like so much? Murakami must have an obsession with breasts as he can’t go more than five paragraphs without mentioning it.
With 1100 pages in this piece of shit, I was expecting it to AT LEAST have a better story.
Prose is also mediocre trash. Where do I start with Buddhism? >writer's con organizer advised us to make our writing more "cinematic" >I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked,
>dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,
>angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night
Damn...what an opening What's the literary equivalent?
I started reading philosophy one month ago and so far I have finished the early socratic dialogues by Plato (Listed at the end of the post). Plato is very subtle and humble in his knowledge, so help me understand if what I'm interpreting is correct or not.
He always plays humble to question his opponents but it seems like his arguing always goes in the same direction when arguing about "what is virtue", but he never finishes the idea.
From what I read I assume that, for Plato, "virtue", in every form, comes from knowledge. Is this correct? He always compares the other forms of "virtue" and at the end they all come from knowledge, so am I missinterpreting something? Is Socrathes/Plato playing like a cat with a mouse when saying that "they don't know what virtue is"? Or am I missing something and he really doesn't know it? I understand that Socrathes' philosophy is "All I know is that I know nothing" but it seems to be a subtle answer hidden in his questions.
Dialogues are: Apology, Laches, Charmides, Lysis, Eutyphro, Hippias minor, Ion, Crito, Protagoras, Gorgias, and Euthydemus. Judging by enraged foids on goodreads about this book I'd already say yes, but i want to know your opiniom, brehs... Let’s get a horror fiction thread going. But…
HARD MODE
You CANNOT talk about:
>Stephen King
>H.P. Lovecraft
>Edgar Allan Poe
>Thomas Ligotti
Let’s try to talk about horror authors we don’t usually talk about. >American
>Hasn't read Whitman
Explain yourself. Frens, what are some good books to learn Modern Hebrew language for English speakers? This is surprisingly hard to find. I tried using ChatGPT and the books it recommends me are very expensive and don't even have English translations! They're intended for immersion courses, which I am unable to take due to being a shut-in NEET. Please help me out my frens. Does anyone have pdf of this full book in English?
It must be very censored by the global jew and hard to find >道可道非常道
>名可名非常名
you know he's right, right? Why is /lit/ so obsessed with this religion when it has nothing to do with literature. I get that it has some philosophy attached to it but in the end it's religious dogma (similar to Christianity) has no place in the world of individual thought. It's just religious bs and it's followers are nothing but sheep. Why do you think Augustine has been demoted from the canon of great philosophers?
Certainly his influence and the breath of his work is huge. For most of history he would probably be proclaimed a top 5 figure. Now he sometimes fails to make the curriculum entirely.
What shifts in philosophy caused this? Or is it just part of the general trend to remove any mention or serious engagement with Christianity?
Aquinas would be another who stood extremely tall for centuries and now is even less likely to be included. >le metaphor for industrialization
thank you J.R.R. Tolkien for inspiring nearly a century of post-materialist pseudo-traditional shitlib nonsense wrapped in mediocre children's genre fiction I'm not worried about AI replacing human authors because Ulysses BTFO all of us so hard that there hasn't been a meaningful step forward in the medium for 100 GOD DAMNED YEARS. At this point we need robots not only to write novels but to read them, because we've hit the ceiling for human beings as authors and as readers, and that's without cracking open Finnegans Wake. >Tolstoy’s description of the ceremonies of the Freemasons in this chapter is based on his study of books and manuscripts in the rich collection of the Rumyantsev Museum in Moscow. In a letter to his wife in the autumn of 1866 he wrote: ‘After drinking my coffee I went to the Rumyantsev Museum and sat there until three o’clock reading very interesting Masonic manuscripts. I can’t describe to you why the reading induced in me a depression I have not been able to get rid of all day. What is distressing is that all those Masons were fools.’
Was Tolstoy right about the freemasons? >last book finished
>book currently reading now
>book you will read next >named Alissa Nutting
>writes about teenage boys nutting
how does she get away with it? You judge the book because of its cover and its title but not the content
"RoyalRoad" edition
Previous: >>23620953
/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQ
RESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvC
ROYAL ROAD BUSINESS GUIDE https://www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847?page=1
HOW TO GIVE CRITIQUE: https://critters.org/c/whathow.ht
Please limit excerpts to one post.
Be warned: some anons do not follow external links.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.
If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.
Harsh criticism tends to get ignored, hence is not constructive.
Violent shills and relentless shill-spammers should be ignored and reported.
Simple guides on writing:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdzv1NfZRM
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whPnobbck9s
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAKcbvioxFk
Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVAFCxduhq0 Thoughts on Greek/Latin novels?
Overlooked, or fortunate to have even survived textual transmission? Who is the literary equivalent of the GOAT? By far my favourite genre is classics, especially those of the 20th century. And American literature is always the best in my opinion, it's so much more more gritty yet heartfelt than the British classics. I'm interested in more niche books that you think would warrant it being a "classic" regardless of it's actual critical success, from either 20th or 19th century USA or Canada (Where I'm from). Especially those in the whole movement with Cormac McCarthy and Flannery O'Conner. Would Nietzsche approve? I think he would. >that part in Journey to the West where Wukong starts randomly killing women and old people
>Tripitaka just forgives him
What's the moral here? Is depression the secret sauce to being a great writer?
Imagine a fantasy novel that features an army marching to battle. The battle is hard fought, but the heroic side wins. Afterwards, the main hero celebrates the victory by consorting with a paramour. That's the plot.
Now, let's assess male and female-oriented versions of this story.
In the male-oriented version...
>We'll begin with an in-universe prologue written in third person omniscient High Tolkienesque style. Thereafter, the book will be written in the close third person point of view of a character who has almost no emotions or inner monologue.
>There'll be detailed descriptions of the mustering and march of the army with orders of battle that prover the author is the world's leading expert in 13th century Genovese military history.
>We'll see several angry war councils in which angry men anger each other angrily because everyone else is either reckless or cowardly.
>The battle will begin with a tragic skirmish that costs the life of a beloved side character.
>The battle itself will cover 3-4 chapters, in which the main hero will lose his armor, break his weapon, be covered in gore, and accomplish some battle-winning feat. Real-world military tactics will be used.
>A B plot point of view will illustrate what it's like for the band of delta brothers on the front lines, in which they will express that while war is hell, it's better than working the fantasy equivalent of a desk job at Ikea. Many will die bravely without regret, except for the married one, who will get a poignant death scene.
>Afterwards, the main hero will find his paramour and there'll be a sly suggestion of intimacy to finish: "Conandude eyed the beauty. 'Aye, lass, now it's time to come to my tent.' " In any case, no actual sex will take place, ever, and it is possible that this will be true of the author in real life as well.
>The End. >my favorite book of all time is Consider the Lobster and Other Essays by David Foster Wallace
What type of person do you imagine? What did they mean by this? >Tokarczuk is hardly alone in her praise. The Serbian novelist Danilo Kis was fascinated by Schulz; Israeli novelist David Grossman featured him in his novel See: Under Love; Cynthia Ozick wrote an entire novel imagining what happened to Schulz’s lost manuscript for his novel The Messiah; both Michael Stipe of R.E.M. and Patti Smith claim to have been influenced by him. In 1976, Philip Roth went to visit Isaac Bashevis Singer for The New York Review of Books so they could discuss Schulz and in that year, Roth inserted Schulz’s murder into his novella The Prague Orgy.
Thoughts on Bruno Schulz?
The homosexual young men and the love-mad girls,
and the long widows who suffer from a delirious inability to sleep,
and the young wives who have been pregnant for thirty hours,
and the hoarse cats that cross my garden in the dark,
these, like a necklace of throbbing sexual oysters,
surround my solitary house,
like enemies set up against my soul,
like members of a conspiracy dressed in sleeping clothes
who give each other as passwords long and profound kisses.
The shining summer leads out the lovers
in low-spirited regiments that are all alike,
made up of fat and thin and cheerful and sullen pairs;
under the elegant coconut palms, near the sea and the moon,
there is a steady movement of trousers and petticoats,
and a hum from the stroking of silk stockings,
and women’s breasts sparkling like eyes.
The small-time employee, after many things,
after the boredom of the week, and the novels read in bed at night,
has once and for all seduced the woman next door
and how he escorts her to the miserable movies,
where the heroes are either colts or passionate princes,
and he strokes her legs sheathed in their sweet down
with his warm and damp hands that smell of cigarettes
The evenings of the woman-chaser and the nights of the husbands
come together like two bed-sheets and bury me,
and the hours after lunch, when the young male students
and the young women students, and the priests are masturbating,
and the animals are riding each other frankly,
and the bees have an odor of blood, and the flies buzz in anger,
and cousins play strange games with their girl-cousins,
and doctors look with rage at the husband of the young patient,
and the morning hours, when the professor, as if absentminded,
performs his marital duty, and has breakfast,
and still more, the adulterers, who love each other with true love
of beds high and huge as ocean liners,
this immense forest, entangled and breathing,
hedges me around firmly on all sides forever
with huge flowers like mouths and rows of teeth
and black roots that look like fingernails and shoes >As for the ‘theory of evolution’ in particular, it seems to be one of the strangest aberrations of the human mind; by a singular inversion of the truth, people see a ‘progress’ where there is only a manifest degradation. Far from being a conception worthy of admiration, it is, on the contrary, a lamentable product of an epoch in which men have lost all awareness of the true nature of things.
So in other words he was wrong about everything. I can’t take anything anyone who doesn’t believe in universal common ancestry seriously. Dropped. >now is not the time for art
Is he right? What are the best unbiased works of literature about Dahmer's murders?
By unbiased i mean no fedwashing, the more it caters to gay serial killer sympathizers the better.
Legit sources only! Do we all agree that this was the peak of literature? Why are there so many useless details in this book? The author feels an intense need to talk about everything around the characters all the time and it is really annoying. It's cool and all to read only "high brow" literature and be a pretentious dude, but confess here, what some "low brow" books that you actually love to read. Did anyone else get this? Bought it for the Ken Wheeler intro. Has Plotinus' enneads and two other neoplatonists in it. Around 800 pages. Maybe we could do a reading group? You could read all these book by the end of the year:
The Great Gatsby
The Catcher in the Rye
1984
Brave New World
Pride and Prejudice
To The Lighthouse
Hamlet
The Sound and the Fury
Blindness
Frankenstein
One Hundred Years of Solitude and
Pedro Paramo
A that's ONLY reading 20 pages a day! The more I experience life, the more I come to understand that everything is a coping mechanism. Religion, goodness, civility, sacrifice—all are ways we cope with the reality that we are nothing and that consciousness is a fatal error in nature. We find ways to manage this existential dread through various forms of coping. To me, the cope of hedonism appears to offer the least amount of suffering for the brief time we exist on this earth. Please recommend good books on hedonism, but not those that refute or argue against it. It takes the noble savage trope a bit too seriously don't you think?
Also what is this thing on the cover supposed to be? And what the hell is orgy-porgy? Is it pronounced with a hard g or like orgy with a j sound?
Pretty good book overall all things considered. >download book from libgen
>em dashes have been stripped from the text and misprinted i's replaced by l's
>genre slop has been transformed into a postmodern masterpiece >Cause endless seethe that has lasted till this day
How did they do it? books like pic related with a funny, relatively smart, relatably fucked up quasi-loser of a protagonist and a pleasantly flowing prose? Do audiobooks count towards your "read" list?
As in, if someone said they read 10 books the last half of the year, does that count if it was by audiobook? Or does it have to be explicitly looking at text? >"In 1961 he married Lee Holleman, a fellow student from the University of Tennessee. They had a son, Cullen, moved back south to Asheville, North Carolina, and were divorced soon after. When asked years later about whether he paid alimony, he responded: “With what?” He was, for the next 25 years, poor, rootless and happy.
>"The Washington Post last month reported her reason for going, quoting from her own 2009 obituary: McCarthy “asked her to ‘get a day job so he could focus on his novel writing’ even though she was already ‘caring for [their infant son Cullen] and tending to the chores of the house.’”"
Do you think literary ambition justifies this kind of thing? do we like dr. gregory sadler here? I never wish to be easily defined. I’d rather float over other people’s minds as something strictly fluid and non-perceivable; more like a transparent, paradoxically iridescent creature rather than an actual person.
-Adolf Hitler This book succeeds in proving that primitive man was always violent.
It utterly fails to prove that the violence of civilization is somehow an improvement to the violence of primitive man. Using population statistics to infer that a band killing 4 people with spears is a worse crime than carpet bombing a city of 50,000 people because the 4 people made up a larger percentage of the population in their band than the 50,000 people in the city made up of their country, is fucking insane. Comparing tribe warfare in New Guinea where at most triple digits are killed to the fucking Holocaust is insane. God ? The universe ? Your daemon ? The muses ? Aliens ? Yourself ?
Pic unrel Wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters
Last thread: >>23584755 What is the best one volume history of Rome from the end of the Second Punic War to the collapse of the Republic?
>inb4 Mommsen (not one volume)
>inb4 Scullard (not one volume) Why does Mung get so much description in this book? I swear he features in almost every chapter and gets as much focus as the rest of the gods combined. Is he supposed to be king of the gods (aside from MANA-YOOD-SUSHAI)? If so why is that not stated?
How do parts of substances factor into Aristotle's metaphysics? e.g. the body or mind of a human being? How would he interpret them?
I was reading an explanation of the four antepraedicamenta in Aristotle's Categories, and I noticed something strange:
>Present-in a subject BUT NOT said of a subject: accidents (full stop)
>Present-in a subject AND said of a subject: two subjects in one.
>e.g. David knows law (David's mind knows law).
>e.g. David is alive (David's body is alive).
So, the present-in part is simple enough. Knowing law, alive, etc., describe their respective subjects. But the said of part is more difficult.
What is going on here?
Is said of referring to the fact that minds, bodies, etc., are part of the essence of a person? But we generally don't see a definition speak of mind, body, etc., even if it might be an implication of the fact that humans are rational animals, that animals are living creatures and thus animated bodies, etc. I also wonder if this is how Aristotle deals with part-whole relationships that involve things that could be characterized as substances.
Or is the "said of" element attempting to describe something about what body, minds, etc., are when they are most themselves (like energeia)? e.g. a living body is most itself when it is alive (and not when it is dead), a mind is most itself when it is actively thinking and grasping the object of its thought, etc. What's the /lit/ CONSESUS on ANTI-WORK? I want to encounter a text to change myself. I am sick of monotonous life. Lit bros I want to extend my arms further and burn. My actions are aligned but an idea lacks an ideal lacks. Suffering with inner migration. Please recommend any historical fiction book, no matter which period If Milton Friedman rejected Judaism, why did he ended up becoming a caricature?
>Child labor good.
>Cars that explode your ass good.
Does this prove there is some sort of subconscious archetype we can never escape from? Murnanesisters
Get the fuck in here
https://www.agerpres.ro/english/2024/25/07/mircea-cartarescu-glad-for-having-made-it-among-top-five-authors-considered-for-nobel--1182091 >try reading worm
>female lead immediately starts thirsting after a black in her internal monologue
>disgust.jpeg
>look up author to check if Plato was correct
>he looks like picrel
>dropped immediately
I don't believe that an ugly person can ever create anything beautiful. And I don't know if Ive ever seen a modern handsome author.
>The later Nietzsche [...] will celebrate "lightness," "youth," and "gaiety." This is not a sublime gaiety, edged with sorrow, as we find in Martin Heidegger, but rather a gaiety that is "African." [...] He forswears Wagnerian music, which "sweats" and so is tantamount to a kind of passion—even more so because, inevitably, it aims for "redemption": "Wagner has contemplated nothing so deeply as redemption: his opera is the opera of redemption." The music of youth, of "health" and of "nature," on the other hand, is a music of gaiety, of sweet being here, requiring no redemption, no rescue. Nietzsche enthuses over a "Moorish dance," over music with a "southern, brown, burnt sensibility," for the "yellow afternoon of its happiness," which is "brief, sudden, unforgiving." He praises that music which "arises" "softly, pliantly, with politeness." The "first principle" of his aesthetics runs: "What is good is light; whatever is divine moves on tender feet." Wagner's music, on the other hand, Nietzsche portrays as a pressing, torrid southeasterly wind, a "sirocco": "I break out into a disagreeable sweat. My good weather is gone." Nietzsche contrasts Offenbach's "lightness" with the "heavy," "deep" "pathos" of Wagner. Offenbach's music, "free" and "bright," emerging with a light step, promises a "proper redemption from the maudlin and ultimately degenerate music of the German Romantics"; a peculiar redemption, then, a redemption from the incessant demand for redemption. It dwells in contented being here.
I'm only starting to dig into Nietzsche's views on Wagner. He says Wagner will be popular in the "age of international wars." He wasn't wrong. Was Wagner the original decadent pop musician? What should I read to understand Jewish thought? >The rumors are true! We have some BIG news! Announcing forthcoming tomes translated & edited by @maxdaniellawton, with HUGE thanks to Andrei at The Untranslated blog, Matthias Friedrich, and Douglas Suttle. What is your favourite Latin American author? What is the best translation of Sappho What is the best literature from the Dark Ages?
The first two that I would think of are the works of Anselm and The Song of Roland but I'd like to know what else is good. I am not really into the whole romantic individualist from Western literature. What are some books with a group as the protagonist? I have heard that Brandon Sanderson has that in his books. Who's your favorite Patristic author and what's your favorite piece of theirs? Going through ὑπόμνημα εἰς τήν πρός Ἐφεσίους Ἐπιστολήν by John Chrysostom and then I'll go through Athanasius De Incarnatione. Would like some more reccs, and feel free to generally discuss anything about them. Transcendental idealism is a philosophical system founded by German philosopher Immanuel Kant in the 18th century. Kant's epistemological program is found throughout his Critique of Pure Reason (1781). By transcendental (a term that deserves special clarification) Kant means that his philosophical approach to knowledge transcends mere consideration of sensory evidence and requires an understanding of the mind's innate modes of processing that sensory evidence. Should everything in a grand ol'epic tale be full and fraught of all kinds of themes and meaning that produce abyssal levels of insight; to be used as much as a cheap harlot that you find on sixth street? >Memoirs of Hadrian
>The Last of the Wine
>Confessions of a Mask
>Poems of Sappho
>Orlando Are they just sloppy work from hacks who couldn't write any better? Do any of merit and depth equivalent to actual literature exist? Sing in me, /lit/. In Don Quixote we witness the complete genome of the novel. Yes, every work of fiction exists within Don Quixote. Everything that has been written, is currently written, and will be written in the future, in the quill of Cervantes it has been traced. This is thus what inspired Borges to write the epitaph:
>There is no new thing upon the earth. So that as Plato had an imagination, that all knowledge was but remembrance; so Solomon giveth his sentence, that all novelty is but oblivion. is this worth buying to learn german? How does this compare to his other novels? What time to be alive...
If these books existed back in the 20th century you would had no place to hide from being ashamed publicly Why are midwit Redditors so obsessed with Gnosticism? Any recommendations for someone who enjoyed Trainspotting? Doesn't need to be Scottish.
I liked the humour, characters, themes of degeneracy/morality. I can't really put my finger on why I liked it so much, but I found some aspects of the book very relatable, being a brit These are all the books I've read this year. After I finish up Decay of the Angel and Name of the Rose my stack will be done so I need some new stuff.
I'm turning 23 soon so stuff like DFW really appeals to me, as well as books like Into the Wild and other 'finding yourself' books. Definitely would like a mix of serious and more fun, comfy stuff like Name of the Rose (besides all the boring history dumps it reminded me of Redwall)