>>2646281
Started driving south people are already nicer here.

Funny thing is between my post you responded to and my post here. I talked to a local Vietnamese guy from Hanoi, he lived in Saigon for a few years, and he literally said the exact same thing to me without me prompting it.

"People in Hanoi just think about making money and are depressed and gloomy and mean"

This was said by a native Hanoian guy I met who moved to Saigon now moved back for work.

>>2646435
>it's a little glitzier, rowdier, and more of a global hustler vibe than Hanoi

Hanoi is the scammer hustler city. Also more expensive despite people there being poorer. So saigon is richer more developped and cheaper. And less smog.

The only thing Hanoi has over Saigon is slightly colder and a better party scene for foreigners. Thats it. If you dont care about it being 5-8 degrees hotter and you want to interact with the locals not Backpackers. Go to Saigon.

>>2646606
That was not me. But I still dont understand the point you are trying to make.

OP here id love to go to Bangkok one day, I would just prefer to enjoy it in my own non touristy way (ohh and no hoes and drugs.)

>>2646635
Sorry I was just moody the other day, when I posted that. I loved Vietnam when I first came here 5 yrs ago, but I did not enjoy my Halong bay tour, it was so fake, and the people that were on tour with me are the exact people I dont like, and yes there was quite some standing in line so Americans or Brits could take their picture at X or Y spot. If people enjoy that, thats fine. I just dont like my time being wasted, I dont mind taking things slow and at my own pace, but if I want to move on quicken the pace or slow it down, I get really irritated.

Sometimes I want to take time somewhere and sometimes I am disinterested and wish to move forward, hence I get really irritated with tours. Might be my mild autism.

I soent 6 hours today/150km driving to Mai Chau it was gorgeous

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