>>4390023
>I guess I should mention I don't really want a separate body and lens, I'm not gonna bother switching out lenses, I just want one lens that zooms in and out.
>I'd like to get a bit more serious about my photography.
If you aren't ready to take the plunge into an ILC, I think your best option is to stick to your phone and really focus on framing and subjects. Phones have all sorts of tricks to make the images look better like automatic exposure bracketing and noise reduction but an app like Open Camera can give you more creative control over what computational modes are used.
>>4390028
>but like there's no way im going to switch out lenses on a cliff with winter gloves on
Having a camera which swaps lenses is really more about future-proofing yourself. When I'm doing a strenuous backcountry hike, I only bring 1 lens, usually a 24-70 or a prime but if I'm doing an afternoon walk through the woods you can be sure I'm bringing a small telephoto and a macro setup as well.

I use a Lowepro TLZ chest bag to hold my camera while I'm hiking, it strikes a good balance of keeping it safe and secure with ease of access.

An olympus would probably serve your use case well. It has great stabilization, it's weather resistant and still fairly compact. You could probably get pretty far with the 12-24 or whatever their midrange zoom is, or even the 20mm prime. The 60mm macro is also a great lens that weighs next to nothing.

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