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>First off you can get bikes with fenders and racks in the same price range, be it bikepacking or touring.
That Cinelli we're talking about is not a bikepacking or touring bike. It only fits narrow tires. It's a road bike. Road bikes often don't have bosses, because they're not good at or intended to carry loads. They are minmaxed speed bikes. Are you insisting that all bikes be versatile? Why?

The ultraracing examples given after that are to show that even for carrying stuff, many people with ~touring bikes chose bikepacking bags. Those bikes do still have bosses and could just as easily have racks and panniers (and many of those setups do go halfway and use a front or rear rack).

>Second there's options to install racks with fenders on every bike.
Bikepacking bags aren't used because people think they can't have racks. The examples given are to show that even given the ability to have racks, many people chose bags. Even so, clamping racks on is often pretty annoying especially on world touring bikes that might frequently be disassembled. Running lowriders without midfork bosses is especially awful (i do it).

>Third mount points in frames are free if the frame has them.
It's not free, it's extra work, especially on a handbuilt steel or carbon frame/fork. You pay for it.

>And last any (questionable) aero gains are less than what a dirty chain does.
Not having the bosses? Sure that's not going to make a bike preform better at all. It's largely a style thing. Not having panniers is a HUGE aero bonus though.

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Remember when cycling was exciting? There were new design innovations every year. Now it's all static. Just the…