>"I really hate how modern Gundam shapes are so standard human shape."
>conveniently ignores the nonstandard shapes they don't like
I hate talking Gundam because half of the time you're either serving as a wiki article for someone else or you're talking to a turbo autist who is supposedly pulling from JP onry supplementary material and if you try to argue any points with them they'll just loop the conversation until you back off.

Mecha exists to draw people in because "waow cool robot", but Gundam's curse is insisting that it's more than that while being EXTREMELY vague on almost every talking point. It leaves viewers to discuss only what actually happened, because there's much inconsistency between characters supposed thoughts and their actions.
Unlike a book that's written by one person, and sometimes more than a little help from an editor, you've got a whole staff of individuals piecing shit together to make anime work. What you end up with is something that might be fun to watch but any intended morals or messages can easily be lost in a script where there's no consistency in what's being shown to the audience. At any given time it's difficult to tell if you're being presented a narrative and supposed to understand that a character's words are a direct view to their inner feelings or if they are being presented as a flawed human being who's never quite at peace with themselves and what they say and do will more often conflict than coincide.

TL;DR If you want your worldview challenged and imagination stimulated, read a book.

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Most media is chalk full of references. Even ancient literature keeps alluding to other stories the audience should be familiar with. Long running series tend to become so self referential it's basically masturbation.
WfM threw in some token references but none were really out of place given the weird megacorp aristocrat setting.

SEED in comparison makes it's identity on being something of an alternate timeline to MSG.

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