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>If anything, western powers want to use ukranian men to attack Russia itself to punish Russia, which is of no value to Ukraine and will just get another 300,000 Ukrainians killed.

Your post is reasonable but this is vatnigger propaganda. Europe is guilty of many things but this isn't one of them.

1. They needed to allocate 500-800 billion and send a message to Putin that he can't win. This should have happened yesteryear, instead it has been too little too late. Aid has been significant, but not decisive enough.

2. Yes they war needs to end now. Grueling attritionnal warfare is a dead end and Ukrainian lives are far more important than some vatnigger. This is what Europe is most guilty of. They say "nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine", but they need to be decided to be decisive and come to terms about sending peace keeping forces to Ukraine. Security guarantees is the most important thing now
Primarily Britain and France. Perhaps Italy, the Czechs and even Poland. Germany I don't know, they're completely cucked. The Biden administration has been a complete disaster and hopefully Trump can actually end it soon.

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