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>THERE IS ONE BODY OF CHRIST
Boring, see (>>16547965)
>AND ONE EUCHARIST
yawn* see (>>16547965)
>UNDER A BISHOP. YOU CANNOT DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE BISHOPRY HE SAYS CLEAR AS DAY.
Even the Anabaptist have bishops.
You are doing a very obvious motte and bailey tactics.
(motte) The Church is One is one institution guys you are either a part of it or you aren't
(bailey) No there can be divisions, it doesn't matter. These 2 separate institution that aren't in communion thats fine, Christs singular body can be split in 2.
You are a bit of a maggot aren't you?
>Pure cope. Ignatious makes a distinction in 80-140 AD
A distiction which you don't understand
Jerome (347-420): Therefore, as we have shown, among the ancients presbyters were the same as bishops; but by degrees, that the plants of dissension might be rooted up, all responsibility was transferred to one person.
Therefore, as the presbyters know that it is by the custom of the Church that they are to be subject to him who is placed over them so let the bishops know that they are above presbyters rather by custom than by Divine appointment, and ought to rule the Church in common, following the example of Moses, who, when he alone had power to preside over the people Israel, chose seventy, with the assistance of whom he might judge the people. We see therefore what kind of presbyter or bishop should be ordained. John Harrison, Whose Are the Fathers? (London: Longmans, Green and Co., 1867), p.488. See also Karl Von Hase, Handbook to the Controversy with Rome, trans. A. W. Streane, Vol. 1, 2nd ed. rev. (London: The Religious Tract Society, 1909), p. 164.
>and you cite a church father 300 years after.
Call Jerome a heretic then, I don't care.
>The quote I sent by the Smyreans says "let the deacons be subject to the presbytery and the presbetry to the bishop".
>so let the bishops know that they are above presbyters rather by custom than by Divine appointment

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