>>452521
>culturally this was made good use of: men knowing that a member would not take advantage of their wives allowed them to stay with the tribe - for example as shamans.
that's not what happened. what happened is that the "shaman" - let's stick with that - banged the chicks too. The animal kingdom and even recent japanese history has enough evidence of this, see "wakashu" culture... There's also the possibility that some pre historic people were matriarchal, so women choose their mates anyway and men had no say in the first place. This may have stopped with the start of 'harem economies', as they are actually called - think ancient Egypt for a very simple, long lasting and prominent example. The palaces of these bronze age city states were basically manufactures for fine art trinkets, clothes and non metal tools of all kinds. All these cultural achievements, like death masks and such are more often than not the legacy of long forgotten slave cultures they assimilated. Now here comes my own speculation: in some places and times such kings, who herded and bred the women of captured tribes, wised up to the sneaky nature of the swishy men they probably got as bycatch when those were still boys. I suspect, since the bloodline meme is directly linked to the rise of these patriarchal city states, that this has to be the time around which they came up with their own perverted facsimile of the former shaman: the eunuch harem-administrator. Like pharaonic circumcision and foot binding for women, this is the medicine for "gay" men in such a milieu.
>>452523 got it right, I think - but you're spot on with the rest you said
>Glad that you qualified this as being about stereotypes; obviously being "gay" doesn't prevent conception and plenty of gay people have biological offspring via heterosexual encounters that oddly enough don't mark them as straight for life the way even a single same sex encounter is held as making someone irreversibly not straight.

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