>>100152210
>AVR is a better platform
>Why would you introduce a complex assembly like x86 to beginners
Because I'm not. Arduino/AVR has taken over the hobbyist microcontroller space, and AVR is a RISC architecture anyways. If you are learning assembly, you are learning it for a specific platform unless you are speaking theoretically like LLVM IR or RISC-V, because the platform quirks aren't portable.

I encountered a project that inlined assembly directly manipulating the GPIO for the ATmega328 family of Arduinos, and you know what? It's now useless code that I have to untangle and probably start from scratch since an Arduino Mega2560 has a completely different port arraignment from the chip to the silk screening from the 328 family because the port nicknames are abstracted away in the Arduino library to improve portability. Including direct port manipulation within your project completely breaks portability and makes it a completely unmaintainable mess (except for the one who made it). God forbid I waste my time trying to figure out what the Arduino IDE tries to do with that shit on their new ARM boards.

And you of all people should know that the z80 is a direct improvement on the 8080, and the assembly on the 8086 was designed to be extremely similar to the 8080 to the point that binaries can be transpiled to the 8086.

>>100152964
It's specifically 6502 assembly I have a problem with, because current 6502 hardware is too expensive or you really can't do much with it anyways. An Arduino at least can at least net you a bauble that does some party tricks at worse. Doing shit with an NES or whatever is cool and all, but it takes a good long while of unrewarding grinding to get something that looks like something

>>100153425
I'm a RISC-V guy. I have a Li Chee Pi 4a 16/128, a Pinecil, M0Sense, ESP32-C6. I'm of the opinion that RISC-V's time is soon. And yes it is fun, unless there's proprietary instructions involved. Eagerly awaiting Li Chee Pi 5 2.

I h8 char limit

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