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>the other is claiming that only one specific anatomy in the universe is adequate for tool making
That's a strawman. The real argument is that beaks and trunks are crap, and overcoming the limitations is a fantasy. Tentacles could be good but being a sea creature is its own massive limitation.
>We are not equipped to manipulate tiny objects, push large boulders, fly, etc but we achieved that by the clever use of tools
Tools made with hands. We're arguably better at lifting boulders with our bare hands than elephants, while almost approaching the precision of a weaving bird and surpassing that of crows. A bird is unlikely to increase in size and precision at the same time.
>So a crow for example could craft a crude tool to attach to its beak to use for different tasks like we use pincers, knifes
>attach to its beak
There you already have an issue. Humans never had to attach anything to their hands. You can just hold a thing in one hand and another hand left, all while being able to look at what you're doing.
Human evolution was a huge uphill battle that took millions of years, including long periods of stagnation. If conditions aren't ideal, things are just not going to happen. Shitty cost/benefit prevents any progress. Nature is harsh, you need huge excesses of time and energy to invent stuff. With our current standard of living we can think of things like beak attachments and wheelchairs but in the past we made simple and effective things. The process of making tools to craft better tools only happens after mastering basic tool making in the first place.
It took 3.7 billion years for sapience to happen since the first life form. The evolution of intelligence started way before hands, yet the exponential growth of our brains happened after the fact in a small fraction of 3.7 billion years.

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If every single primate in the world went extinct, which species would go on to become sapient first?